LOL. Just face it, as much as the zeppelin needs escort the bomber does too. You can’t rely on enemy kindly lining up in front of your bomber, ready to be killed as you like it. You have to accept that everybody who plays the game wants to win by finding your weakest spots. The plurality of the game calls for cooperation within the teams and tactics to save the day. Tactics will be very interesting as soon as we can choose whom we want to talk to or play with during game sessions. I strongly believe a true dogfighter handles the situation as it appear or dies. So, DO NOT MOCK players for their tactics and will to win; it only reveals who you really are!

I think the zeppelin and the bomber need a camper or maybe a Spawnkiller on there team to.

P.S. Don't leave next time I start chasing you. Take your medicine. May be the quit button has the will to win.

Funny that when the "tactics" get turned and most are put to the test they mysteriously leave. I won't lump all droppers/chasers together but I would say 90% leave after a thumping. I've played with them all and I've seen it plenty. I don't mind the dropping. I see it and I drop. I do mind the leaving when the drop doesn't do any good and you are losing. Just saying.

I don’t remember you were trying to chase me at all. Maybe I got connection lost or got a phone call?

Last time I was playing as Marie Osmond.

Nice tactics, I have never heard of people changing names to have a glimpse of a chance. I hope it will work for you some day. I don’t know who you are but it looks like I have killed you once too much. Red baron never changed his name or colour.

He also died . You talk about tactics and showing a will to win by any means you can , then critisize those that change their names to make them selves less visible ...a wins a win according to you . So your idea of tactics doesnt match anothers big deal . If a name change wins the game ........the tactic worked . Better than camping over a runway shooting spawning planes . Even the red baron had better ethics . That takes no skill . You may as well get a tank and blast away as the plane appears .

This is good to hear and I don’t agree with you when it comes to how I play. This post was intended for the brave and skilful General Jackson who needed some support and understanding. You have never ever in person seen me being a tank and spawn killing planes with it and will never ever see it too. How about you? Please be true and don’t hurt me, people might think I really do this. You got it wrong again, to me no namers are a fun but very tricky challenge. I understand many else are complaining about its too damn irritating and hard enough for them. I feel for these players and I support them all the way and that’s why I never ever fly no name.

Regarding spawn killing and camping over or on runway I maybe feel/think like you too. I don’t like this when misused but I also understand it’s a grey area of team tactics, skill of enemies, gaining easy points..witch I cant or trying to survive among irritated and skilled enemies that takes any chance to shoot you down while trying to stay alive to find an opportunity to fly safe to home base. You just have to agree, nothing feels as good as when you save or clear your home base from enemies but also coming home from bombing and landing on base with a smoking plane. I think you should get points for getting home after bombing too! Maybe some of the top players with many hangars bombed also have lots of crashes because they choose to crash after bombing instead of trying to fly home from that terrible hornet’s nest of enemies over the runway.

I never camped on runway and you will never ever see me do this. I threw newbie’s a bone or two by letting them killing me witch makes them happy and in the end maybe buying the game. Avoid killing them who asks for it in reasonable way. I never let, as some squad’s members do, enemies fly thru to bomb base. I always try to fly home and stay alive and it’s by no way easy. I let people to know they have to get a new bomb a sap without unnecessary camping. Helps peoples in trouble and give them suggestions to improve or answer questions about the game. I never talks disparaging or spread faulty rumours without being the true source by my self. I think I have some ethics and awareness of the problems. I got my first karma but someone took it away after I wrote this, thanks for showing what you think and I think I have ethics not to be ashamed of or get mocked for.

Calle,

There has been a lot of talk lately about bomb dumpers, campers and spawnkillers. I've seen your name listed as all if these, but have never seen you camping or spawnkilling. I have notice you fly without a bomb a lot and I have been on the receiving end of you suppressing a base for bombers.

I guess this post is me vouching for you, regarding the camping and spawnkilling. I can't speak for what others have seen, but personally, I have not. Bomb dumping.... Yes. Spawnkilling..... No.

ParrotHead wrote: Calle,

There has been a lot of talk lately about bomb dumpers, campers and spawnkillers. I've seen your name listed as all if these, but have never seen you camping or spawnkilling. I have notice you fly without a bomb a lot and I have been on the receiving end of you suppressing a base for bombers.

I guess this post is me vouching for you, regarding the camping and spawnkilling. I can't speak for what others have seen, but personally, I have not. Bomb dumping.... Yes. Spawnkilling..... No.

Thanks and nice to hear from you PH. I’m fine but this explains a lot of the behaviour I received from some I even haven’t yet killed in a game or know about. It’s also sad it seems like someone can get kicked out of a game without explanation just because there is a list stipulating you as a bad boy/girl and encouraging people to complain. There might also be conflict of interest here, does the kicker belongs to a squad, is he playing too? Is this list for ever written in stone? Who is responsible of the veracity of the information and personal damage when you can put someone on a list without letting the very person to know about it and have a chance to explain or defend him or herself? This is very serious stuff; I know law and don’t like defamation and yes in Europe we abolished witch hunt long time ago. How about US?
Thats all for now

Yes calle here in the US we have Witches but we call them Mother-in-laws here. And No we don't hunt them they find us.

I think with the new segregated servers these two points are not as important.
A lot of (but not all)chasers used to quit a lot and try and find a game with lower ranks. They were easy prey and the chaser only had to deal with maybe one higher rank making it easy pickings. Most chasers used to quit DF and CTC games as their tactics didn't work.
Base Campers were similar. When there is too many good players they would milk out their last camp and leave.
Now that we are flying with experienced players the advantage is leveled out. Chasing is a good tactic to win now not just a point thing. With all the great players it is very hard to base camp and it also has it's strategic advantages if you can. Still don't get the runway blocking and tank spawning but I haven't seen it in a while:).
I respected some pilots views because they were doing it for tactical advantage. They were arguing however for the point mongers who made them look bad. Bomer really wasn't a camper unless you accused him of being one then he showed you what a real camper did. Same with Enzo. They are just deadly good pilots. Bomer was a points guy. We need a points system for advancement it's just when they are the focus pilots do the marginal things.
With the new game with all higher ranks we should be talking more in terms of team strategy as one pilot can make a difference but can't dominate. Unless it's the one that takes 15 bullets to shoot down !

calle wrote: This is good to hear and I don’t agree with you when it comes to how I play. This post was intended for the brave and skilful General Jackson who needed some support and understanding. You have never ever in person seen me being a tank and spawn killing planes with it and will never ever see it too. How about you? Please be true and don’t hurt me, people might think I really do this. You got it wrong again, to me no namers are a fun but very tricky challenge. I understand many else are complaining about its too damn irritating and hard enough for them. I feel for these players and I support them all the way and that’s why I never ever fly no name.

Regarding spawn killing and camping over or on runway I maybe feel/think like you too. I don’t like this when misused but I also understand it’s a grey area of team tactics, skill of enemies, gaining easy points..witch I cant or trying to survive among irritated and skilled enemies that takes any chance to shoot you down while trying to stay alive to find an opportunity to fly safe to home base. You just have to agree, nothing feels as good as when you save or clear your home base from enemies but also coming home from bombing and landing on base with a smoking plane. I think you should get points for getting home after bombing too! Maybe some of the top players with many hangars bombed also have lots of crashes because they choose to crash after bombing instead of trying to fly home from that terrible hornet’s nest of enemies over the runway.

I never camped on runway and you will never ever see me do this. I threw newbie’s a bone or two by letting them killing me witch makes them happy and in the end maybe buying the game. Avoid killing them who asks for it in reasonable way. I never let, as some squad’s members do, enemies fly thru to bomb base. I always try to fly home and stay alive and it’s by no way easy. I let people to know they have to get a new bomb a sap without unnecessary camping. Helps peoples in trouble and give them suggestions to improve or answer questions about the game. I never talks disparaging or spread faulty rumours without being the true source by my self. I think I have some ethics and awareness of the problems. I got my first karma but someone took it away after I wrote this, thanks for showing what you think and I think I have ethics not to be ashamed of or get mocked for.

Thanks Calle for your encouragement!!!! But its not neccesary though ..........I have my reason why I do what I do. I have no need to explain anymore or write as SB did ( it was very good SB!!! ). Most if not all of SB's post was something I learned on my own by trial and error. I never felt to write it all down. Most serious chasers learn all of this on their own. Anyways, I will no longer stay in a game if someone complains. It doesn't mean I am upset. It just means that I will respect the others opinion and not cause any hardships. I will just leave the game with nothing said. I have been playing a lot more so that I can get back to where I once was.
Thanks again Calle!!!!

General jackson wrote:

calle wrote: This is good to hear and I don’t agree with you when it comes to how I play. This post was intended for the brave and skilful General Jackson who needed some support and understanding. You have never ever in person seen me being a tank and spawn killing planes with it and will never ever see it too. How about you? Please be true and don’t hurt me, people might think I really do this. You got it wrong again, to me no namers are a fun but very tricky challenge. I understand many else are complaining about its too damn irritating and hard enough for them. I feel for these players and I support them all the way and that’s why I never ever fly no name.

Regarding spawn killing and camping over or on runway I maybe feel/think like you too. I don’t like this when misused but I also understand it’s a grey area of team tactics, skill of enemies, gaining easy points..witch I cant or trying to survive among irritated and skilled enemies that takes any chance to shoot you down while trying to stay alive to find an opportunity to fly safe to home base. You just have to agree, nothing feels as good as when you save or clear your home base from enemies but also coming home from bombing and landing on base with a smoking plane. I think you should get points for getting home after bombing too! Maybe some of the top players with many hangars bombed also have lots of crashes because they choose to crash after bombing instead of trying to fly home from that terrible hornet’s nest of enemies over the runway.

I never camped on runway and you will never ever see me do this. I threw newbie’s a bone or two by letting them killing me witch makes them happy and in the end maybe buying the game. Avoid killing them who asks for it in reasonable way. I never let, as some squad’s members do, enemies fly thru to bomb base. I always try to fly home and stay alive and it’s by no way easy. I let people to know they have to get a new bomb a sap without unnecessary camping. Helps peoples in trouble and give them suggestions to improve or answer questions about the game. I never talks disparaging or spread faulty rumours without being the true source by my self. I think I have some ethics and awareness of the problems. I got my first karma but someone took it away after I wrote this, thanks for showing what you think and I think I have ethics not to be ashamed of or get mocked for.

Thanks Calle for your encouragement!!!! But its not neccesary though ..........I have my reason why I do what I do. I have no need to explain anymore or write as SB did ( it was very good SB!!! ). Most if not all of SB's post was something I learned on my own by trial and error. I never felt to write it all down. Most serious chasers learn all of this on their own. Anyways, I will no longer stay in a game if someone complains. It doesn't mean I am upset. It just means that I will respect the others opinion and not cause any hardships. I will just leave the game with nothing said. I have been playing a lot more so that I can get back to where I once was.
Thanks again Calle!!!!

Good to hear GJ, I'm taking the boat for a cruise now. Have a nice summer! =)

Dr Dave wrote: Yes calle here in the US we have Witches but we call them Mother-in-laws here. And No we don't hunt them they find us.

Haha, I like your sense of humour, have read some of your post and seen some of your funny pictures. It’s a true pleasure to have you here and a splendid dogfighter you are.. one of my favourites! Going to take up the gill nets/fishing tomorow and then take the boat for a longer cruise. Have fun!

Kevy wrote: I think with the new segregated servers these two points are not as important.
A lot of (but not all)chasers used to quit a lot and try and find a game with lower ranks. They were easy prey and the chaser only had to deal with maybe one higher rank making it easy pickings. Most chasers used to quit DF and CTC games as their tactics didn't work.
Base Campers were similar. When there is too many good players they would milk out their last camp and leave.
Now that we are flying with experienced players the advantage is leveled out. Chasing is a good tactic to win now not just a point thing. With all the great players it is very hard to base camp and it also has it's strategic advantages if you can. Still don't get the runway blocking and tank spawning but I haven't seen it in a while:).
I respected some pilots views because they were doing it for tactical advantage. They were arguing however for the point mongers who made them look bad. Bomer really wasn't a camper unless you accused him of being one then he showed you what a real camper did. Same with Enzo. They are just deadly good pilots. Bomer was a points guy. We need a points system for advancement it's just when they are the focus pilots do the marginal things.
With the new game with all higher ranks we should be talking more in terms of team strategy as one pilot can make a difference but can't dominate. Unless it's the one that takes 15 bullets to shoot down !

Thanks for your good information of yours Kevy! I wish I had time to write more to you know but it have to wait. But look at the top 100 players and compare how many planes you shot down per hangar bombed. It is a crude way of comparing different flying strategies and hardware platforms like size of screen and so on but if you don’t bomb much it will show. Some had 45 planes/hangar and me about 13 planes/hangar. Pluribus had very few just a little above 2 planes/hangar and he crashes and dies more then he bombs or kills. I’m about in the middle so no notorious bomb dropper just when I must.
Have to stop writing now, see you soon again

My point was people should not be complaining with the segregated servers anymore. I think the chasers can be chasers and the bombers be bombers. No more problem! Sorry I am so bad at explaining and I wasn't really siding with anyone. The statistics from the stats are general at best. I would be #1 if they had one for getting shot down right before bombing! My Stats for my second account don't count in my book as I was experienced before I started it but they are quite different and I fly the same on both.

Oh calle haha ...i think your a awesome player ! No i dont see you spawn kill. Sorry that wasnt about you , just my opions on name changes and such. Have a great day bud .

Calle, there's no official "bad boy" list. I was referring to posts I've seen that called you a spawnkiller and was just saying that I had not seen that from you. For all I know you could be worst of the lot or not do it at all. I just have never seen it.

I'm intrigued by your fishing reference though. Look for a thread called "Back at the dock... fish tales". Share some of your stuff.

Someone say bad boy? That's obviously not Dent right now, haha bump

Dr Dave wrote: Yes calle here in the US we have Witches but we call them Mother-in-laws here. And No we don't hunt them they find us.

Now that was funny!!! Lol

Calle, you are a great player. I always feel uneasy when your name pops up red, and happy when its blue. Either way, you make it a better game for us all. Play your game your way and play it for you. Don't change. Keep terrorising.