Hi there!

I know, people who are playing with the iPad have this crash happen on the time. It will happen as soon as you pick up a tank!

It is already fixed, but let me explain what happened.

In programming, there are lot of variables for a game to be stable. You see, I have several things going on here when I make a release:
a) I have a game engine, it is called Unity. It helps me program once, and supposedly runs in every Android and iOS device. The problem is that like every software, Unity also introduces and fixes bugs with each release. So, although I don't change anything on my code, Unity may have broken something on theirs.

So I didn't change anything on my code for the iPad, but Unity did. What this meant is that I had to write to Unity to see what was going on and a fix was provided (but took almost a week). I also have a few other bugs on the pipeline waiting for them to fix (the most serious one is the samsung galaxy s3 american version, still crashes randomly and it's on their end).

b) Manufacturer updates. Even when Unity or me don't change anything and the game is working perfectly fine, things may begin failing because the manufacturer changed something. For instance, if you upgraded from iOS 6.0 to 6.1, they may have changed something that make the game and apps crash. Or that Android update from 4.1 to 4.1.1... same thing.

c) When point A or B happen, the end result is that the game crash. It is not my fault because I didn't do anything, but obviously I'm your point of contact for any game problems. What I do is get your feedback, try to figure out whether the bug is mine or from the third party, and then send it out to them if that's the case. This process can take as little as a few hours (if it is my fault, I usually fix and release in the same day) or as long as a month (samsung is not exactly speedy replying to a small potato like me).

This is the situation. There are some ways to speed it up, but as I explained before, they are costly. You can have special support from all of them but the cost is too high for us to bare at the moment. That's why we need funding too, to make Dogfight Elite and enter into the "elite" of that support system for Dogfight Elite and for Dogfight.

Anyway, the iPad fix is on the apple store, just waiting for Apple to approve it and release it. Until then, don't jump on a tank if you have an iPad, there is no much else we can do but wait for Apple.

Oh man, you really deserve a big hug than just a thank you
Can't wait to check it out

Z, no doubt you have earned the title as King of the Multi-taskers! Thanks!

Well, right now I've installed the new version 4.4.25 on my iPad4.

First I had to re calibrate my controls but I already knew it from the android version.
Then I've played several missions WITHOUT A CRASH OR OTHER PROBLEMS.
With version 4.4.23 I had a lot of crashes and with 4.4.24 I wasn't able to play!

I can chat and use tanks without the game kicks me out.
I really looks all serious bugs are fixed!

And the flame and smoke effects look really awesome. I just can say:
I never saw a more beautiful Dogfight than today. I love it!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH ZUPERMAN.......YOU ROCK!!!!

I just played five missions but now I'll drink a overdose of coffee and play the rest of the day.
I'll keep you up to date.....

lol, thanks
i saw all the green letters and i thought there was a crash, so relief when i saw everything was ok

There were a few people saying that they would pledge when the ipad was fixed... let's see whether that was true lol

Thanks Zup. You Legend !!!!

Not only for the fix but also for the explanations of the cause.

For me as i am sure for others, It's just a case of "pick up the tablet and expect everything to work seemlessly".
Being a serial thicko, i had no idea of the complexities of writing and releasing these apps and updates.
Sure is a bit of an eye opener !

Hey Hel,
Can you turn on the ground (and carrier) easily, or is that just an android thing? How is inverted flight, with and without bomb, compared to before?
Manfred

Manfred wrote: Hey Hel,
Can you turn on the ground (and carrier) easily, or is that just an android thing? How is inverted flight, with and without bomb, compared to before?
Manfred

Hey Manfred, yes it's right. The turn radius on ground and carrier is larger now. Under deck it's very difficult to turn. If the carrier is fast enough to drive backward it works. But it looks like a woman who tries to parking her car. lol

Inverted flight without a bomb feels more easy now. But with bomb I guess it is impossible for a longer time without to kiss the ground.

That's what I saw on iPad.

Now I'll check it out on different Android devices:

Asus Google Nexus7 with Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean
Lenovo LIFETAB S9714 with Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean
Lenovo LIFETAB P9514 with Android 4.0.3 ICE CREAM SANDWICH (rooted)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 with Android 4.2.0 Jelly Bean (rooted)
Odys Tablet 4 (7") with Android 4.2.0 Jelly Bean

I let you know how Version 4.4.25 works there
LG Helen

Zuperman,
I just upgraded my iPad to 4.4.25 and my game feels like it's now in SLOOOOW MOOOTION.
My Albatross seems to be less responsive. For example, it appears to roll and pitch at a slower rate and it takes longer to loop or complete a turn...

Am I imagining things?? Or did you guys "tweak" the aircraft performance on the new software upgrade?

Help! Change it back...I feel like I'm flying a brick!

SB

change the sensitivity on settings for the control

OOoooooh! Duh.

Thanks!

SB

I've just sent another update for android, it should allow you to turn better on the ground.
Also it should fix the sgs3 crashes but I can't guarantee that until you confirm it. (i don't have the device myself).

SB467 wrote: Zuperman,
I just upgraded my iPad to 4.4.25 and my game feels like it's now in SLOOOOW MOOOTION.
My Albatross seems to be less responsive. For example, it appears to roll and pitch at a slower rate and it takes longer to loop or complete a turn...

Am I imagining things?? Or did you guys "tweak" the aircraft performance on the new software upgrade?

Help! Change it back...I feel like I'm flying a brick!

SB

Hi Zuperman

I just upgrade it on ipad, set sensitivity to maximum and still slow motion....i use joystick .... Every nobie shoots me down

And after take off if i change throtle, bomb goes off

Br, Jan

Bomb drops sometimes when I touch the screen and sometimes when I shoot at some one,and at times on it own.

yeah it seems a bug on unity, it seems to happen only when you are touching the screen at 2 places at once: the joystick and the fire buttom
it's pretty annoying, i'm already talking to unity to see how long they take for a fix

Wumper/Stuart is a genius! He figured it out. Throttle and fire at same time means the bombs drops. I haven't tried random spots on the screen, but thanks Stu! Almost as good as a fix for me.

ParrotHead wrote: Wumper/Stuart is a genius! He figured it out. Throttle and fire at same time means the bombs drops. I haven't tried random spots on the screen, but thanks Stu! Almost as good as a fix for me.

Works for me,thanks Wumper .

zuperman wrote: change the sensitivity on settings for the control

Zup,
No luck-- the sensitivity was already turned up so that was NOT the problem.

Bottom Line: Since the new upgrade, my aircraft stinks. I am CONFIDENT that I am NOT imagining things... there is no doubt in my mind that I've lost system performance. I've been killed more times in the past hour than what usually takes an entire day. My plane is flying like a Greyhound bus.

Any ideas what it could be? internet? Gen 2 iPad? or the game?

And no, I haven't been to the bar!

It is easy to proof. Take off next to someone with the same airplane and bomb then fly together straight. See if you really go that much slower or it is your feeling.

MissHell wrote: Well, right now I've installed the new version 4.4.25 on my iPad4.

First I had to re calibrate my controls but I already knew it from the android version.
Then I've played several missions WITHOUT A CRASH OR OTHER PROBLEMS.
With version 4.4.23 I had a lot of crashes and with 4.4.24 I wasn't able to play!

I can chat and use tanks without the game kicks me out.
I really looks all serious bugs are fixed!

And the flame and smoke effects look really awesome. I just can say:
I never saw a more beautiful Dogfight than today. I love it!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH ZUPERMAN.......YOU ROCK!!!!

I just played five missions but now I'll drink a overdose of coffee and play the rest of the day.
I'll keep you up to date.....

My problem is the smoke and fire are REALLY laggy.

SB467 wrote:

zuperman wrote: change the sensitivity on settings for the control

Zup,
No luck-- the sensitivity was already turned up so that was NOT the problem.

Bottom Line: Since the new upgrade, my aircraft stinks. I am CONFIDENT that I am NOT imagining things... there is no doubt in my mind that I've lost system performance. I've been killed more times in the past hour than what usually takes an entire day. My plane is flying like a Greyhound bus.

Any ideas what it could be? internet? Gen 2 iPad? or the game?

And no, I haven't been to the bar!

It must either be the ipad, or something else, because it feels EXACTLY the same for me.

E-F-9 wrote:

MissHell wrote: Well, right now I've installed the new version 4.4.25 on my iPad4.

First I had to re calibrate my controls but I already knew it from the android version.
Then I've played several missions WITHOUT A CRASH OR OTHER PROBLEMS.
With version 4.4.23 I had a lot of crashes and with 4.4.24 I wasn't able to play!

I can chat and use tanks without the game kicks me out.
I really looks all serious bugs are fixed!

And the flame and smoke effects look really awesome. I just can say:
I never saw a more beautiful Dogfight than today. I love it!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH ZUPERMAN.......YOU ROCK!!!!

I just played five missions but now I'll drink a overdose of coffee and play the rest of the day.
I'll keep you up to date.....

My problem is the smoke and fire are REALLY laggy.

But other than that, the update is the best i've seen in a while.

E-F-9 wrote:

SB467 wrote:

zuperman wrote: change the sensitivity on settings for the control

Zup,
No luck-- the sensitivity was already turned up so that was NOT the problem.

Bottom Line: Since the new upgrade, my aircraft stinks. I am CONFIDENT that I am NOT imagining things... there is no doubt in my mind that I've lost system performance. I've been killed more times in the past hour than what usually takes an entire day. My plane is flying like a Greyhound bus.

Any ideas what it could be? internet? Gen 2 iPad? or the game?

And no, I haven't been to the bar!

It must either be the ipad, or something else, because it feels EXACTLY the same for me.

You, too?! Well, THIS MUST BE FIXED...and FAST! My kill ratio just dropped from 18:1 to 5:1. I have my pride! Ugh!!

If your kill ratio dropped... that's because you are bad lol
seriously, all planes in all devices should fly the same speed, that's why I ask about taking off next to each other to see whether one is faster than the other with the same plane and bombs and all. It shouldn't.
If the planes are now slower, it should be slower for everyone so nobody has an advantage.

ok, finally got the bomb dropping bug narrowed down, but apple will take another week to release the update!
so my suggestion, the bomb drops only when you press at 2 different points the screen. Meaning, flying with the joystick it's almost impossible because you are always holding a joystick and firing or something at the same time. I would just fly with "movement" controller and press one point at a time. This for the ipad.

For android... i'm sending now an update. It will have 2 things:
1) The bomb dropping is fixed.
2) It will auto-adjust the smoke and fire to your device. So if you have a slower device, it will reduce the quality of it automatically so that it doesn't go slow to crap.

This also will be sent to Apple in a few minutes, but it won't make it public until they want to make it public :/

Aside from that, it's 2 am here and I haven't slept jack for over 5 days, so i need some rest before I begin seeing pink elephants.

You r real hero .... Now get some sleep man


Thank you !

zuperman wrote: If your kill ratio dropped... that's because you are bad lol
seriously, all planes in all devices should fly the same speed, that's why I ask about taking off next to each other to see whether one is faster than the other with the same plane and bombs and all. It shouldn't.
If the planes are now slower, it should be slower for everyone so nobody has an advantage.

No, Zup. You misunderstood what I'm trying to say. My plane isn't slower (as in speed going from point "A" to point "B"). It's slower with regards to RATE of motion (pitch, roll, turn). I am still moving my iPad as aggressively as usual, but iPad motion isn't being transferred accurately to the game. The end result is a FAST, but unmaneuverable aircraft.

I've already ensured that the sensitivity on my iPad is turned up, so what could cause the game to not receive accurate RATE of MOTION cues from my iPad? Could something like that be caused by an older "slower" iPad?

BTW: I've also noticed that the scenery skips a bit as I maneuver.

---break---break---

If anyone else out there experiences the same problem I've described, please chime in! I want my old Dogfight performance back (I had with 4.4.24).

Thanks,

SB

Wasn't there something mentioned somewhere how to "re-train" the accelerometer? An app? Maybe it came from device manufacturer's help section?

SB467 wrote:

zuperman wrote: If your kill ratio dropped... that's because you are bad lol
seriously, all planes in all devices should fly the same speed, that's why I ask about taking off next to each other to see whether one is faster than the other with the same plane and bombs and all. It shouldn't.
If the planes are now slower, it should be slower for everyone so nobody has an advantage.

No, Zup. You misunderstood what I'm trying to say. My plane isn't slower (as in speed going from point "A" to point "B"). It's slower with regards to RATE of motion (pitch, roll, turn). I am still moving my iPad as aggressively as usual, but iPad motion isn't being transferred accurately to the game. The end result is a FAST, but unmaneuverable aircraft.

I've already ensured that the sensitivity on my iPad is turned up, so what could cause the game to not receive accurate RATE of MOTION cues from my iPad? Could something like that be caused by an older "slower" iPad?

BTW: I've also noticed that the scenery skips a bit as I maneuver.

---break---break---

If anyone else out there experiences the same problem I've described, please chime in! I want my old Dogfight performance back (I had with 4.4.24).

Thanks, SB

SB is right zuperman. The performance of the planes is not the same. Not the speed. The turning and rolling are bad now. Needs to be fixed.

ok so it is maneuverability, not speed the one that is different. I'll check what's going on.