So people are not alowed to cover for other players coming with bombs and go long do you have to wait to shot somone taking off before its not considered spawn killing

If no1 is comeing in to bomb and he's just killing people I consider that spawn killing. If I drop my bomb on hangers and I have a few guys right behind me with bombs I won't shoot them on the ground , I will let them up but I will keep them busy so my team can bomb. Once they bomb I will return to base to get anoter bomb .but never just hang out killing till smoe1 get there to bomb.

I bombed more than half the hangers at the enemy base and allowed enemy players time to take off if what I was doing was wrong I'm sorry I didn't know it was not allowed to keep the enemy busy while team mattes come with bombs my bad. Please next time say something to me in game intend of bashing my screen name on the forum

I wasn't in the game so I don't know the whole story. I will say I have played with JasonMC MANY times and he's always been a good teammate and foe. He has always played very honorably when I've seen him in game. I would vouch for him anytime.

Wumper, I understand your frustration and agree that just circling and killing is wrong if there are no teammates inbound. However, you have to realize that somebody can't just turn their back after bombing if they're surrounded by reds. I was in a game with you today when you complained about spawnkilling, but I think you accusations in that game were unfair. Even if the there's no more bombers coming in, I will do my best to knock the reds down to open a window to get away. For clarity, I will not shoot a plane on the strip.

I know it's a touch topic and there a lot of grey area but give a warning in game if you think I'm breaking a rule please

I have allways thought spawn killing is when you shoot someone without giving an opportunity to get on air. Is there rules against flying over enemy base after bombing? I think not... Flying over enemy base and shooting as much reds as you can is just a ticket on winning games. Thats how your team mates can enter with treir bombs.

I don´t know about you but I think its better to fight in enemy base instead of mine.

This topic has been brought up, questioned and talked about so much that it's undoubtedly the most debated topic. Spawn killing pisses people off....plain and simple. Here's what happens,
when you start off this game for the first few weeks/months, you get SK'ed, alot. Gradually, you learn to accept it as a part of the game and give some back (with the exception of Tank Spawn Killing which is a biiggg no no!)

I've learned to take some evasive maneuvers and can usually manage to take off with a circling SK'er behind me with the use of some brakes, timing and some clever use of the buildings (hint: fly low and bank hard between them). Once I'm airborne, I have a pretty good chance at the chase. Ok more than good, I take down the SK'er in every instance

Personally, I don't like to do it but there are certain instances where I have to. When I bomb the base, I will stick around and shoot some reds just long enough to make a clean getaway and if on the way back to my base I fly past a blue team-mate, I will turn back towards the red base to assist them. The other exception is if I note someone SK'ing endlessly I will SK them back and keep them pinned down, you know, for chit's and giggles.

Captain Noushbag wrote: The other exception is if I note someone SK'ing endlessly I will SK them back and keep them pinned down, you know, for chit's and giggles.

Dr Dave supports this message....

But isn't there now immunity so spwan killing is impossible unless someone is just sitting on the runway?

As per usual, I agree/disagree with everything that's been said, except for those things with which I neither disagree/agree.

That being said, let me say this about that:

If it is bad form to circle the enemy base (until one is out of ammo or shot down) picking off recently re-spawned but fully armed and airborne enemies, then so must it be bad form to pick off bomb-laden enemies mid-field, before said enemies are anywhere near one's base. There being no immediate threat to either base at that point, how does that contribute to the mission? All that stuff that happens mid-field must be purely point-driven. How gauche! It stands to reason then that the only truly gentlemanly and sportsmanlike thing to do is for both sides to wait politely at their respective bases until enemy bombers are within the no-tanking-from-chute zone. I say, jolly good show!

But I daresay Nobody would agree with that. In that case I will take a stand on principle and disagree with Nobody! If on the other hand Nobody disagrees with that, then I agree with Nobody!

But the larger point is this: enemy base suppression (while letting 'em take off to have a fair shot at defending) does have a tactical advantage that supports the mission objective. There are ALWAYS bombs on the way, in both directions, because people are ALWAYS re-spawning with bombs. Is there any net difference between stopping a bomber's run at the mid- or end point and stopping it at the starting point? All three scenarios prevent or delay the other side from getting to your base, while buying time for your bombers (wherever they are on the map) to get through.

bopes wrote: As per usual, I agree/disagree with everything that's been said, except for those things with which I neither disagree/agree.

That being said, let me say this about that:

If it is bad form to circle the enemy base (until one is out of ammo or shot down) picking off recently re-spawned but fully armed and airborne enemies, then so must it be bad form to pick off bomb-laden enemies mid-field, before said enemies are anywhere near one's base. There being no immediate threat to either base at that point, how does that contribute to the mission? All that stuff that happens mid-field must be purely point-driven. How gauche! It stands to reason then that the only truly gentlemanly and sportsmanlike thing to do is for both sides to wait politely at their respective bases until enemy bombers are within the no-tanking-from-chute zone. I say, jolly good show!

But I daresay Nobody would agree with that. In that case I will take a stand on principle and disagree with Nobody! If on the other hand Nobody disagrees with that, then I agree with Nobody!

But the larger point is this: enemy base suppression (while letting 'em take off to have a fair shot at defending) does have a tactical advantage that supports the mission objective. There are ALWAYS bombs on the way, in both directions, because people are ALWAYS re-spawning with bombs. Is there any net difference between stopping a bomber's run at the mid- or end point and stopping it at the starting point? All three scenarios prevent or delay the other side from getting to your base, while buying time for your bombers (wherever they are on the map) to get through.

Everyone is always picking on Nobody... Just leave him out this!

SnidleyWhiplash wrote: But isn't there now immunity so spwan killing is impossible unless someone is just sitting on the runway?

Snidley, immunity applies only to the noobs, Aspirants and Jimmy Buffet fans

Captain Noushbag wrote:

SnidleyWhiplash wrote: But isn't there now immunity so spwan killing is impossible unless someone is just sitting on the runway?

Snidley, immunity applies only to the noobs, Aspirants and Jimmy Buffet fans

Not sure about that, I had immunity messages when I hit Maranatha on a bomb run.
I guess he must be a jimmy fan

The spawning debate has reached ad nauseum. That, and the definition of spawning seems to keep getting extended. I'll be closing in on the runway and red will be wheels up and sending a stream of bullets at me when I'll return fire and smoke them and then see the message .. "Nice job, SPAWNER". Oh good grief, how much time do you want?
Will I try to keep red busy at their base after dropping my bomb? ..dang straight I will. Will I zap you while you're sitting on the runway? ..no, but once your wheels up you better dang well be ready to maneuver and fire! You want to fly straight and level after lifting off? ...then prepare to be flamed.
Oh, and to clarify, when I'm on final approach to bomb the base/carrier ... yeah, I'm going to strafe the runway/deck to suppress red. I've lost count of how many times I've been shot down on final approach .. whether I'm chivalrous or not.

Thats what makes me so mad hansone. Everyone knows i spawn kill and i admit it, but when they accuse me, even after i let them off, let them drop their bomb, catch speed and then shoot at them, and they accuse me of spawn killing. So after that i actually spawn kill and make them leave.