As witnessed by myself and Harmless, both AVM II's.

Nice shot Jimbo.

A Dogfight first?

I've seen it twice. The first was Desert Rose. That puts you in pretty good company.


The other was a tank shot by me, but that's not the same. I was at the end and shot through all 4.

Ive done that a handfull of times.

I've done it once

I have never seen that I always split them

tanks can do this too.

Did with a tank today. I thinking bringing up this subject made it happen, unfortunately Vanilla Ice blew me away before I could get the other four. I think Tex was there too.

Had to be a lucky shot I dropped that thing along the side of the runway(I think) I was to busy trying to avoid the lead shower the guys behind me were trying to give me to see where it landed. Then it popped up on the screen that I got all four. fun game with those of you that we're there!

I've got 5 hangars in a row before. I don't know why 5 but, hey, it's just another addition to my score.

O yea, how'd u do that. I have gotton 4 before. Its just luck, usually if ur a bad bomber, u get 4 more often, because bad bombers usually get the middle 2 and if u hit right in the middle u get 4, thats not always the case though, good bombers do that too

I believe I shot a tank shell that grazed the top of all four hangars and I guess the game mistaken it as 5 hangars.

Aaaah, thats nothin...I've got all the hangars with nothing more than a spit out the window. This topic kinda reminds me of a line from the movie space balls "...and I see that your schwartz is as big as mine"

I crashed into the hangars once.

Nothing happened. My gas tank exploded, but that was it.

How did u crash into a hanger? Lol seems impossible

Oh, it's quite possible. It's a lengthy process, however. Here's what you do:

-Approach the hangers

-When directly above the hangars, tilt your plane 90* perpendicular to the ground

-Continue trajectory towards hangars until collision

Ta da!

Yea but why would u do that on purpose?

bomer1 wrote: Yea but why would u do that on purpose?

Head call, BOMER. Head call.

ParrotHead wrote: Did with a tank today. I thinking bringing up this subject made it happen, unfortunately Vanilla Ice blew me away before I could get the other four. I think Tex was there too.

I can confirm that I was a witness to that PH.

thenightmaresbegi wrote: I believe I shot a tank shell that grazed the top of all four hangars and I guess the game mistaken it as 5 hangars.

According to your story, Jimboslice passes you and starts flying towards the runway. Then you say you were struck on the right temple by his bomb. The bomb then proceeds to ricochet off one of the buildings, striking Luna between the third and fourth spars. The bomb then came off the spar, turned and hit bomer in the right fuselage, causing him to drop HIS bomb on the spot. The bomb then glances off bomer's right fuselage, pauses — in mid air, mind you — makes a left turn and takes out all four hangars on the opposite side. That is one magic bomb.


I'm saying that the bomb could not have come from your plane, that there had to have been a second bomber (or tank), behind the hills or on one of the grassy knolls close to the runway.

Big Tex wrote:

thenightmaresbegi wrote: I believe I shot a tank shell that grazed the top of all four hangars and I guess the game mistaken it as 5 hangars.

According to your story, Jimboslice passes you and starts flying towards the runway. Then you say you were struck on the right temple by his bomb. The bomb then proceeds to ricochet off one of the buildings, striking Luna between the third and fourth spars. The bomb then came off the spar, turned and hit bomer in the right fuselage, causing him to drop HIS bomb on the spot. The bomb then glances off the bomer's right fuselage, pauses — in mid air, mind you — makes a left turn and takes out all four hangars on the opposite side. That is one magic bomb.


I'm saying that the bomb could not have come from your plane, that there had to have been a second bomber (or tank), behind the hills or on one of the grassy nolls close to the runway.

To funny!!! You got me. I wasn't even in that game. It was just a figment of your imagination.

jimboslice27 wrote:

Big Tex wrote:

thenightmaresbegi wrote: I believe I shot a tank shell that grazed the top of all four hangars and I guess the game mistaken it as 5 hangars.

According to your story, Jimboslice passes you and starts flying towards the runway. Then you say you were struck on the right temple by his bomb. The bomb then proceeds to ricochet off one of the buildings, striking Luna between the third and fourth spars. The bomb then came off the spar, turned and hit bomer in the right fuselage, causing him to drop HIS bomb on the spot. The bomb then glances off the bomer's right fuselage, pauses — in mid air, mind you — makes a left turn and takes out all four hangars on the opposite side. That is one magic bomb.


I'm saying that the bomb could not have come from your plane, that there had to have been a second bomber (or tank), behind the hills or on one of the grassy nolls close to the runway.

To funny!!! You got me. I wasn't even in that game. It was just a figment of your imagination.

I'm guessing that this will go right over the kids' heads...

Yes, yes it will, but I nearly tinkled on myself...

NOTE: my comment in no way refers to bellsaj

ive seen 4hangers being bombed with one bomb

all the tome ive been playing the game I.have do it twice dont know how I did it but it can be done

bomer1 wrote: O yea, how'd u do that. I have gotton 4 before. Its just luck, usually if ur a bad bomber, u get 4 more often, because bad bombers usually get the middle 2 and if u hit right in the middle u get 4, thats not always the case though, good bombers do that too

At the beginning, I often (and sadly) dropped the bomb between the 2nd and 3rd hangars, what almost always blew both of them but left intact the other hangars (1 and 4)... So now I aim the head of the second or third hangars, to blow 3 of them - what I always accomplish when there is no red on my tail...

So I deduced that there was no way to blow 4 hangars with one blow dropping the bomb in a normal "up-down" approach, and imagined that the only possibility of blowing down 4 hangars on one drop would be through the use of the bomb's inertia - in other words, I imagined that, flying horizontally at a high velocity, a plane could drop the bomb in such a way that the bomb would fall in a "less-vertical-and-more-horizontal" trajectory, beginning its blowing work, lets say, in a point between the first two hangars (at the top of them), going on a diagonal to hit the ground level in a point between the third and fourth hangars. But its only a guess; the only one that can clarify this is Z himself, because it has to do with how the colision is treated ingame (in most of the games, the "game objects" are destroyed at the very first colision, therefore, no inertia).

But now, Bomer, your post brought back the first possibility; I think that you meant the VERY CENTER of the row of hangars, and not only a point between the central hangars, huh? It may sound strange, but these are diferent things! We are talking about 2 axis here!

In other words: If your theory is right, to blow the 4 hangars, the bomb needs to land not only exactly between the 2nd and 3rd hangars (on an imaginary transversal hangar-row axis), but also exactly over the longitudinal axis of the hangar row.

In game development, it is common to assign to every object a single point (lets call it "center point", normaly located inside the object, of course, but not necessarily on the center of it) to be used on distance calculations for colision and other purposes. The bomb obviously have a predeterminated area of impact, that is defined by a single measure that is the "radius" of a virtual circle (in this case, a 3D sphere, so we are talking about a "region", not only "area"). So, in the moment of the impact, obviously the hangar goes down only if the distance between the bomb-landing point and the hangar's "center point" (or whatever point used) is less than or equal the bomb's radius of impact. And as it is so rare to see someone blowing 4 hangars in a single shot, it is obvious that Z designed the game in such a way that the bomb's radius of destruction is only a very little bit longer than the distance from the "center point" of the 1st and 4th hangars to the middle point of the hangars row's longitudinal axis. It looks like Z did it purposedly, to see if (and when and how often) the players could manage to do the trick (I know, I should have made a sketch instead of writing all this mess...).

But to know for sure wich one of these two methods (the "inertia" theory one or the distance-axis theory one) is used in game, you should ask Z. I wont dare.

Sorry for the long, boring and somewhat confuse post (maybe with a better English it would be less boring), but I thought this is an interessant matter (at least for math lovers, huh, Manfred?)

ParrotHead wrote: I've seen it twice. The first was Desert Rose. That puts you in pretty good company.
The other was a tank shot by me, but that's not the same. I was at the end and shot through all 4.

Well... If you mean that your tank was aligned with the longitudinal axis of the hangar row, your testimonial is a clue that my "inertia" theory may be true... (See the previous boring post of mine - if you dare!)

Pedro, it may be because I work in an engineering field, but I had no issue comprehending your posts or the theories presented therein. Your explanation was seemingly well thought out and expertly articulated, with no adverse impact from your supposedly limited command of the English language. Bravo, sir!

I would like to propose that the theories you presented are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I conclude that both could be simultaneously true without being contradictory to one another.

I also would like to propose that the end result of successfully destroying all four hangars in a singular aerial assualt, regardless of the theories you presented or any other theory as yet voiced is purely creditable to extreme dumb luck! As I have stated before and 4 out of 5 dentists agree, I'd rather be lucky than good any day.

Thank you again Professor Pedro,
PH

In this case (game engineering), they are mutually exclusive, because the code needs only one method or function to calculate things like colisions. Of course, if the developer wants to put two different pieces of algorithms to rule this kind of collision, he could do it, but the risk of bugs and app-crashes would be really big.

About professor, ouch! I am not professor of nothing. I just want to discover the way it was programmed, to find out the best way to try to blow 4 hangars in one single bomb-drop. Simple as this.

Obviously, with a help of people like you, Manfred and other math-lovers. And (who knows?), Z himself. But for this last one, I really need some help of you guys...

Edit: Oh, and I don't believe in pure luck. If it exists, it walks side-by-side with competence and skills...