Jans79 wrote: Hi huys, i wanna report Vladimir N....he was kiling teamates and words from him was really .... Look at pictures....

This kind of players i wuld erase forever if i could...

Vladimir N Wing Commander II 8 147 44 185 247 35

Banned.

[M]The Doctor wrote: multiple reports of this individual, 5821, team-killing, bombing his own hangers, and foul language on world chat. I have one screen-cap of him team-killing me, and one of the foul language in world chat.

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5821 Wing Commander I (9) 202 49 381 289 62

Muted and Banned.

BUCK wrote: Legend Z freak for team killing
Announced he was going to kill marko99 then executed.

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[LF] Z FrE@k Air Vice-Marshal III (22) 5389 220 3690 2224 476

Banned.

Someone make another page, this thread is too long

Guy spawnkilled me about 10 total so left game came back and then he team killed me several times...lolnever mind pic just wont load

gunnerzz wrote: Guy spawnkilled me about 10 total so left game came back and then he team killed me several times...lolnever mind pic just wont load

Which guy?

Reporting Pedrobeju

For talking about sex toys and what to do with them. Gave him a warning about it to which he said ie. he didn't believe anything would happen. Screenshot available.

Esperanza is his name and I do have screenshots to pm you

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what are u saying BUCK i never killed marko99
it was bcoz my ctrl key was stuck and i didnt even hit him !!!
if i did please show me the screenshot!! :/
and it was a real accident !!!
i need proof tht i killed him BUCK

Wigbomb wrote:

BUCK wrote: Legend Z freak for team killing
Announced he was going to kill marko99 then executed.

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[LF] Z FrE@k Air Vice-Marshal III (22) 5389 220 3690 2224 476

Banned.

This shows nothing of him killing his own team mate ? what if he was just saying that? I talked with him and he said he didn't do that and I trust him hes one of my best pilots and if he did do this why does it matter ? I have countless screenshots of me being team killed and those pilots have been reported but there still here plus I think the worry should be all the pilots in world chat that cuss up a storm by placing periods between words! its false I.N.F.O

Hey guys, I cant report him cause its been a few days but I can say to keep an eye on Jonsilvia. He was being very rude in a game with me and swop, he even called me a fat a$$ lol, said only fat people would by points to be that good, guess he doesnt know ive played for almost 2 years and earned every single point, remember back in the good ol days when u earned a point, u could lose them just as fast if u didnt head to base and land to lock in ur points.... man I miss those days. These new guys think they are hot because they can jump 3 ranks in a week. Try doing like I did and go through all vice marshals in a month, and lose points if u didnt lock them in lol. All the older pilots will agree with me on that one.

I know he cant be banned, muted or anything, just saying to keep an eye on him.
I also have screenshots for proof.

This is what I have to deal with....and hes spaming

Mr.Becken wrote:

Wigbomb wrote:

BUCK wrote: Legend Z freak for team killing
Announced he was going to kill marko99 then executed.

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[LF] Z FrE@k Air Vice-Marshal III (22) 5389 220 3690 2224 476

Banned.

This shows nothing of him killing his own team mate ? what if he was just saying that? I talked with him and he said he didn't do that and I trust him hes one of my best pilots and if he did do this why does it matter ? I have countless screenshots of me being team killed and those pilots have been reported but there still here plus I think the worry should be all the pilots in world chat that cuss up a storm by placing periods between words! its false I.N.F.O

I agree with the Legends guys....where is any evidence at all??

Mr.Becken wrote: This is what I have to deal with....and hes spaming

someone has a problem with authority......
lol and hes a supposedly a christian lol. Boy Gods gonna have fun with him.

if u see i hav some real team killers
i dont know y but i cant post it!!

Ima stay neutral on this one, but I think we should here from marko, he is the one in the screen shot that says they have a traitor. And he is thw alleged victim so he should state what really happened.

Mr.Becken wrote: I talked with him and he said he didn't do that and I trust him hes one of my best pilots and if he did do this why does it matter ?

What kind of attitude is this?
My best pilots should be able to what ever they please or what?
And what do the cussing from other players have to do with teamkilling?
The potty mouthing players should be muted, and those who breakes other rules banned, period.
To say someone shouldn't be punished because someone else is doing something worse is like saying you shouldn't be published for rape because there are those who murder.

And one more question...
What does skill and trustworthiness have to do with each other?

kk bell if i would really hav done it i would would hav accepted my ban
but when i hav not done anything tht means i hav not killed marko99!! not even a single bullet of mine passed through him!!!
and the second thing u said what do cussing from other players have to do with teamkilling !!
my answer is y am i muted ? i should only be banned i hav not cussed anyone!(niether i hav killed marko)
and abt trust!
only a friend can understand it whose who dont hav any i dont knw wht do they think of TRUST!

Whiplash wrote:

Mr.Becken wrote:

Wigbomb wrote:

BUCK wrote: Legend Z freak for team killing
Announced he was going to kill marko99 then executed.

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[LF] Z FrE@k Air Vice-Marshal III (22) 5389 220 3690 2224 476

Banned.

This shows nothing of him killing his own team mate ? what if he was just saying that? I talked with him and he said he didn't do that and I trust him hes one of my best pilots and if he did do this why does it matter ? I have countless screenshots of me being team killed and those pilots have been reported but there still here plus I think the worry should be all the pilots in world chat that cuss up a storm by placing periods between words! its false I.N.F.O

I agree with the Legends guys....where is any evidence at all??

The moment we have a foolproof system wherein we can police every one of the tens of thousands of Dogfight users twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, we Mods will entertain this sort of blowback. Until then, we work with the information available. That's the whole point of the Blacklist Thread.

When a player with long-term experience and sterling reputation - and no known reason to twist the facts - reports an infraction here a Mod may decide that action is called for. The thread exists for such reports and we're here to respond to them.

Mr. Becken, the point is not that there are other abusive players in the game and that some of them elude us, therefore, others should also be allowed to slide. We bust whomever we can as time and attention allow. If you have grievances with abusive players I encourage you to PM me with them, I attend to every direct message I receive. So, I'm sure, do the other Mods. I have yet to receive a complaint from you.

Pursuant to that:

Christian Acost Aspirant (1) 8 3 28 47 0

Muted for abusive language in World Chat.

As for the unsolicited input of unconcerned bystanders...nothing more to see here. Move along.

1st of all there is no proof he did this! Second is its just a game hes a great pilot that loves the game and ive shot a teammate down before on accident so know what ? And no the best pilot cant do what ever he pleases and other pilots cussing was an example sooo if my attitude is not plesent enough for you im sorry... wonder what will happen when they find out my spads inspection ran out 2 months ago ? and rape and murder isnt a joking matter thats serious and has affected many people and could be insulting to some.

Thank you

sry wig but i didnt understand the first 2 para wht u said !! plz tell me in shortest and easier way
ya and till when is my ban gonna continue!?

Zeak I was in this game or next idk but you said Marko99 dnt shoot me then ppl made lol comments but that was it.wow hope this gets cleared up,wht did marko99 say?

Mr.Becken wrote: 1st of all there is no proof he did this! Second is its just a game hes a great pilot that loves the game and ive shot a teammate down before on accident so know what ? And no the best pilot cant do what ever he pleases and other pilots cussing was an example sooo if my attitude is not plesent enough for you im sorry... wonder what will happen when they find out my spads inspection ran out 2 months ago ? and rape and murder isnt a joking matter thats serious and has affected many people and could be insulting to some.

The reports on the Blacklist Thread are often as close to "proof" as we can expect to have.

Zeek's explanation was/is that his ctrl key frequently gets stuck resulting in unintentional friendly fire. Perfectly plausible. He's also said that, in the case cited, he never hit the blue player who declared him a "traitor". One or the other excuse might hold water, but not both at once.

I've exchanged PMs with Zeek, given close attention to his explanation(s), and despite the inconsistencies, I've un-banned him. He was also Muted, and I've lifted the Mute without knowing why (or by whom) it was imposed.

Mr. Becken, we've all shot teammates before, it happens every day. That goes without saying. But we haven't all declared our intention to team-kill and then been reported for doing so with a screen captured accusation of being a "traitor" to support the claim.

Whatever you're working so hard to say, about "the best pilot" (meaning me vis a vis the global rankings? Some stretch about my abusing that standing, as if my ranking in the game and my duties as Moderator had anything to do with one another?) and your "spads inspection", frankly, it makes no sense. If your point is that I'm executing my responsibility as a Moderator by receiving a complaint about a player and acting accordingly, you're quite correct.

ZeEK T}{e FrE@k wrote: kk bell if i would really hav done it i would would hav accepted my ban
but when i hav not done anything tht means i hav not killed marko99!! not even a single bullet of mine passed through him!!!
and the second thing u said what do cussing from other players have to do with teamkilling !!
my answer is y am i muted ? i should only be banned i hav not cussed anyone!(niether i hav killed marko)
and abt trust!
only a friend can understand it whose who dont hav any i dont knw wht do they think of TRUST!

My post had nothing to do with you and you wasn't mentioned anywhere in it, but since you brought it up...
It might be your writing but in your first response to Buck you wrote "I didn't do it, I didn't kill Marko. It was an accident. You have no proof"

To me that looks like you DID kill him, but it might have been an accident. Not that I would believe that to be the case if you prior to that wrote that you were going to kill him.

It is not up to me to judge you, and I wasn't in the game so my opinion to this woud solely be based on what is written in this thread.

The friends and trust part of your post... I'd think I'd do some research before wrote something like that

I dont even know why I argue anymore...just gets turnd around on me.

A complaint was filed, action was taken, all parties have been heard from and the matter is resolved. There's no need for further "argument".

This guy ERICKSON, teamkilled me several times while fighting 5 reds, then he tanked and spawnkilled me several times close up

I tried to type for the reds to get him and I wouldn't shoot but ENOXX who I thought was a good guy kept killing me and between him and my teammate i kept getting shot till the game ended.

PLEASE BAN ERICKSON.

This guy ERICKSON, teamkilled me several times while fighting 5 reds, then he tanked and spawnkilled me several times close up

I tried to type for the reds to get him and I wouldn't shoot but ENOXX who I thought was a good guy kept killing me and between him and my teammate i kept getting shot till the game ended.

PLEASE BAN ERICKSON.

Hilo de puta, tank spawnkilling. He was also bullet and bomb proof. I hit him at least 25 or 30 times, and dropped 2 bombs on him. He still just drove right up to my base.