MyrlinWolf{WP} wrote:

Viper10{WP} wrote: There are only two ways to solve a problem. Either you alter the problem to fit you, or you alter yourself to fit the problem.

My Grandfather was always the positive one. The optimist.
One day he said "It's not a problem, unless there's no solution. I like the word" obstacle""
That has stuck with me for many years

That is very profound. Thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard that one before.

Oops, posted in the thread again.

A man who carries a cat by the tail, learns something he can learn in no other way.

Mark Twain

My fave from Mark Twain is:
Continue to do what you've always done, and you will continue to get what you always got.
I know that's not exact, but that's the jist of it.

I'm not one of us.

My favorite saying from my grandfather, "A short pencil is better than a long memory.."

“It's being here now that's important. There's no past and there's no future. Time is a very misleading thing. All there is ever, is the now. We can gain experience from the past, but we can't relive it; and we can hope for the future, but we don't know if there is one.”
― George Harrison

You know right from wrong,do the right thing- my Dad

"I remember thinking I just want more. This isn't it. Fame is not the goal. Money is not the goal. To be able to know how to get peace of mind, how to be happy, is something you don't just stumble across. You've got to search for it.”
― George Harrison

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."
-Mark Twain

Cantor's infinity theory argues that some infinities are greater than other using a simple one to one correspondence argument. In simple (probably wrong) terms there is an infinite range of number combinations between 1 and 2 using fractional numbers. There is also an infinite number of possibilities between 1 and 10 which would indicate that 1 to 10 is a larger infinity than 1 to 2. Really cool stuff...

[NLR]*McFate* wrote: Infinity is infinitely large, so is it possible to have different quantities of infinity?

Well, if you have a string that is infinitely long then you have an infinite amount of string, right? How can you have more string than one that is infinitely long? By having 2 strings that are infinitely long.

Cogito ergo sum.

PAWS wrote:

TXLAWMAN wrote: Cantor's infinity theory argues that some infinities are greater than other using a simple one to one correspondence argument. In simple (probably wrong) terms there is an infinite range of number combinations between 1 and 2 using fractional numbers. There is also an infinite number of possibilities between 1 and 10 which would indicate that 1 to 10 is a larger infinity than 1 to 2. Really cool stuff...

[NLR]*McFate* wrote: Infinity is infinitely large, so is it possible to have different quantities of infinity?

Well, if you have a string that is infinitely long then you have an infinite amount of string, right? How can you have more string than one that is infinitely long? By having 2 strings that are infinitely long.

However, if there is an infinite range of numbers between one and two, does ten even exist?

Enter relativity right? Ten is a finite measure that would necessarily occur every time in an attempt to quantify infinity, right?

Husky Dog [WP] wrote:

TXLAWMAN wrote: Cantor's infinity theory argues that some infinities are greater than other using a simple one to one correspondence argument. In simple (probably wrong) terms there is an infinite range of number combinations between 1 and 2 using fractional numbers. There is also an infinite number of possibilities between 1 and 10 which would indicate that 1 to 10 is a larger infinity than 1 to 2. Really cool stuff...

[NLR]*McFate* wrote: Infinity is infinitely large, so is it possible to have different quantities of infinity?

Well, if you have a string that is infinitely long then you have an infinite amount of string, right? How can you have more string than one that is infinitely long? By having 2 strings that are infinitely long.

However, if there is an infinite range of numbers between one and two, does ten even exist?

Q: How long does a calendar day exist on Earth?
A: 48 hours

24 hours is the expected answer but it is incorrect.

Today, for example, is February 3rd, 2015. As midnight Feb 2nd fell upon the International Date Line, Feb 3rd came into existence. For the next 24 hours, Tuesday the 3rd ‘grew’ out from the 180° longitude and will eventually encircle the globe. For one infinitely short instant every place on Earth will share the same date. At that point this calendar day will have existed for a full 24 hours. It will then take another full 24 hours for Feb 4th to encircle the globe, taking that time to completely ‘replace’ Feb 3rd..

So if you wanted a particular day (birthday, honeymoon, anniversary ,etc…) to last as long as possible, just fly west from the International Date Line half as fast as the world turns. You could then be in the same calendar date for a full 48 hours.

TXLAWMAN wrote: Enter relativity right? Ten is a finite measure that would necessarily occur every time in an attempt to quantify infinity, right?

Husky Dog [WP] wrote:

TXLAWMAN wrote: Cantor's infinity theory argues that some infinities are greater than other using a simple one to one correspondence argument. In simple (probably wrong) terms there is an infinite range of number combinations between 1 and 2 using fractional numbers. There is also an infinite number of possibilities between 1 and 10 which would indicate that 1 to 10 is a larger infinity than 1 to 2. Really cool stuff...

[NLR]*McFate* wrote: Infinity is infinitely large, so is it possible to have different quantities of infinity?

Well, if you have a string that is infinitely long then you have an infinite amount of string, right? How can you have more string than one that is infinitely long? By having 2 strings that are infinitely long.

However, if there is an infinite range of numbers between one and two, does ten even exist?

Correct, 10 exists as the finite number that is part the infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2. But in bringing up Cantor (which you did say was probably wrong) the statement was that there are longer infinities. To that, I disagree. There is infinity, which is not finite. For there to be longer infinities, it would have to be.

I think Cantor is right. I think my ability to adequately explain his theory is wrong. I can understand how infinities are different and therefore some infinities are larger than others or perhaps not larger but might exist within others. As an example, it could probably be asserted that there are an infinite combinations of atoms in our solar system. The same argument would hold for the galaxy, the universe, but are local infinity is contained within the more macro infinity. Hell, I don't know. I'm no scientist or mathematician. I do understand the logic that infinities may present in different dimensional aspects making one seem larger or actually be larger in some theoretical sense.

It's been a very long time since I've read Cantor, and many other things have filled the available slots in my brain since then. That being said, if you're talking about dimensional differences of infinity, then I suppose there could indeed be longer infinities. Has one dimension been around longer? I have no idea. But it would make sense that if one dimension has been here longer than another, its infinity would be longer than another's. Much like if I said, let's have a number counting contest, GO! I would win because I started before you.

Hmmm... Anyway, you've sparked an interest and now I want to go pull out and dust off some old books. For that, I thank you.

McFate, going back to your infinite length of string... Why would you need 2 infinite strings? That's just greedy...Geeze!

MyrlinWolf{WP} wrote: McFate, going back to your infinite length of string... Why would you need 2 infinite strings? That's just greedy...Geeze!

So you can measure the depth or two different bottomless pits.

Duh!

Moderation? It's mediocrity, fear, and confusion in disguise. It's the devil's dilemma. It's neither doing nor not doing. It's the wobbling compromise that makes no one happy. Moderation is for the bland, the apologetic, for the fence-sitters of the world afraid to take a stand. It's for those afraid to laugh or cry, for those afraid to live or die. Moderation...is lukewarm tea, the devil's own brew.”
― Dan Millman, Way of the Peaceful Warrior

As a whiskey lover, I can attest that moderation has its place!!

nightorado wrote: Moderation? It's mediocrity, fear, and confusion in disguise. It's the devil's dilemma. It's neither doing nor not doing. It's the wobbling compromise that makes no one happy. Moderation is for the bland, the apologetic, for the fence-sitters of the world afraid to take a stand. It's for those afraid to laugh or cry, for those afraid to live or die. Moderation...is lukewarm tea, the devil's own brew.”
― Dan Millman, Way of the Peaceful Warrior

It is said that the first humans were created perfect, and after they sinned gradually started to die, passing on imperfection to their offspring.
Like a copy of a copy of a copy, mankinds imperfection got worse.

In my family, it is the norm to have children at a later age than most......

Does that mean I am closer to perfection than most?

Thanks for all the great thoughts!! Lots of fun stuff to ponder!!

How many times in a row can a little kid say WHY to your answers before you say I don't know or because that is the way it is??

True courage is doing what you are afraid to do.

The red baron ww1

Rooster Cogburn: They don't call him "Lucky" Ned Pepper for nothing.

Mattie Ross: That man gave his life for him and he didn't even look back.

Rooster Cogburn: Looking back is a bad habit.

From True Grit , by Charles Portis

Sorry Guys,

I gotta bump this. I visited the local school district's science fair. A High School senior made graphene in a local makers' workshop. She also received an invitation and scholarship to a "dream" school opportunity.


Graphene is our next quantum leap of technology.

Think of how significant the invention of plastic has been to the world as we know it. What has plastic done for medicine, food storage, transportation, clothing, shelter, electronics, communication devices...on and on? Graphene will foster advancements in all of these applications and it will do so in a way that has an even more profound change in the technological capabilities of the human race.


...IMHO.

[NLR] McFate wrote: Thoughts to ponder...
Hmmm, let's see.

Here is one that has been in my head a lot lately:

Nanotechnology, specifically graphene.

From Wiki
Graphene (/ˈɡræf.iːn/)[1] is pure carbon in the form of a very thin, nearly transparent sheet, one atom thick.

Graphene is remarkably strong for its very low weight (about 100 times stronger than steel[2]) and it conducts heat and electricity with great efficiency.[3] While scientists had theorized about graphene for decades, it was first produced in the lab in 2003.[4] Because it is virtually two-dimensional, it interacts oddly with light and with other materials. Researchers have identified the bipolar transistor effect, ballistic transport of charges and large quantum oscillations.


So, it is strong, it's the most impervious material known (even hydrogen cannot pas through it), it is very light, it has semi-conductor properties, it conducts heat and electricity far better than gold. It can be made to form electronic circuitry far smaller than anything that has ever been done on silicon. It can 'self arrange' circuits. AND it can be photovoltaic (can convert light into electrical current) or thermovoltaic (produce electric current from heat diferentials between two surfaces)

So among other applications it can be used to create self-powered microscopic programmable devices.

It was only discoverd in 2003 but it has been the subject of fantastic discoveries and will change our world in ways that have only been previously imagined. I could go on and on but lots of better minds than mine are already on it.


Check it out:

Search "graphene discoveries"

Or follow the nanotechnology section of phys.org
(This website is a feast for all who are interested in cutting edge science !)



One atom thick?!!!

Dang it McFate!! that is the second time I've spent hours reading up on Graphene!! So easy to get lost in all the what ifs.... Fascinating stuff!!

Thanks for the info!!

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Graphen? 1...Atom...thick(thin)!
Conductive...converts light to energy... Such an amazing product!
Unfortunately, there are probably 1000's of products we are using today that would become obsolete or extinct. The possibilities seem endless. Wow! Thanks for sharing!

How a sperm and egg have 50% each DNA from their mother and father but yet they can combine like a jigsaw puzzle what happens if they are both missing the hair gene or something important

I have a few things to put here, but first thing's first: A fun riddle!


I Was Walking On The London Bridge One Day When I Met A Little Man, He Tipped His Hat And Drew His Cane And In This Riddle I Said His Name. What was this man's name?