hammilton wrote: strangest semantics convo ever....
yes, it does, and because grandpa's are older than men, they can't PRECEDE them.
I don't mean to be rude but is English your first language 
now wait a minute...precede means come before, you just said so
grandpas are BORN BEFORE men, which means they would precede men. sometimes before and event they say, "the precedations are in order" ive read it in a book. now whats the difference...

im confused at what your getting at...

lol english isnt my first language...si ti? mi desufnoc...
kestrel knows what im saying

jk