I was hoping to take the high road but I see I'm being forced to show my hand.

AM I RANK NUMBER ONE, you all be the judge.

I have the folowing pictures to show you. Back on sept 19th I took a picture of the stats and then a picture today as I hit 12 million.

Here are the following results:

wigs total wins in that time period was 743, mine was 5,513......a net gain of 4770 in my favor.

wigs kills in that time period was 7000, mine was 9,369.............a net gain of 2,369 in my favor.

Once you make moraf the only thing that matters is points ONLY POINTS.

Now does this mean I'm the top player of dogfight, heavens no, I believe the top all round player and ambassador of dogfight in VON HULK. there are several players who are all top of the line players, MONSTER CANNON, RODAMS, FRANK BARRACA, just to name a few.

We all play to our strengths, my strength is head on action, folks like ZEBRA AND JIMMY THE GREAT (and others) have mastered the art of dogfighting and they are number one of their field of expertise.

If wiggy poo has a higher amount of points than I will gladly bow down to him. I have absolutely no problem with that.

No matter what the reason is even if there's a "glitch" its nice to see you in the number one spot you have the personality and friendly attitude and that got you brownie points enjoy the Kings Chair!

[*M] MISFIT CROCKETT wrote: Now does this mean I'm the top player of dogfight, heavens no, I believe the top all round player and ambassador of dogfight in VON HULK. there are several players who are all top of the line players, MONSTER CANNON, RODAMS, FRANK BARRACA, just to name a few.

We all play to our strengths, my strength is head on action, folks like ZEBRA AND JIMMY THE GREAT (and others) have mastered the art of dogfighting and they are number one of their field of expertise.

If wiggy poo has a higher amount of points than I will gladly bow down to him. I have absolutely no problem with that.

Oh Davy, you brought a tear to my eye. I've been here a year and a half, you and BlueMax have been my idols. I aspired to become half as good as the two of you. In the beginning I would say "oh Crap" when I saw you two in red. I never left, just kept getting shot down. But I learned from all the top guys. From wig on down the list. I started looking for the MORAFs. Who better to learn from, right?
The reason why I'm where I am is because of all the top guys. Well done sir Crockett, and thanks for the vote.

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Current Stats as of 10 minutes ago:

Kill-Death Ratio
Davy: 2.763
Wig: 2.608

Hangar-Death Ratio (BIASED BECAUSE IT'S A PARTIAL QUOTIENT TO A WHOLE DIVISOR)
Davy: 0.090
Wig: 0.202

Win-Death Ratio (BIASED BECAUSE SEE ABOVE)
Davy: 2.55 deaths per win (NOT per game)
Wig: 2.03 deaths per win (NOT per game)

Kill-Crash Ratio
Davy: 19.498
Wig: 11.786

The verdict: You both are waaay better than me and I'll go sit in the corner now.

Oh dear.


This is totally gonna appear to be the sterotypical "defend the squadmate" thing, isn't it? Or better yet, since it's a well-known fact wig and I communicate daily, a "He's totally kissing wig's ass" kinda thing. I promise it isn't.

As a matter of fact, Davy and I have never had anything (to my knowledge) resembling an altercation. So I hope "hate" claims can be removed from the discussion.

It took both Davy and Wig the exact same amount of points to reach MORAF. That is irrefutable. Regardless of how they achieved it, they both needed the same number of points. Thus, what has been gained since is actually irrelevant, seeing as they would both be theoretically even if they were to achieve MORAFdom simultaneously.

Wig is still ahead in every notable catergory (and even the less notable ones, if there are any). However, the most important one is WINS. While all other scores (besides zeppelin hits) are 50, a win is 200. Wig still has 5000 more wins, accouting for a total of 1,000,000points there alone. Seeing that you tend to get the most wins (3) for a zeppelin game, it appears that Davy cannot.have won more zeppelin games. Add 7000 more kills, 5000 more deaths, and 4000 more hangars, and that adds up to a lot.

The conclusion that can be gained: time frame is completely irrelevant. Only acheivement matters. And while Davy is CLEARLY CATCHING UP, I find it extremely difficult to believe he's there yet.

Wig has not played the game recently, due to a bevy of issues, i.e. his father's death, the collapse of the servers into nearly unplayable lag (everyone knows wig complains about lag), and other things. So Crockett is definitely closing the gap. But there is irrefutably a gap.

Well the numbers don't lie, all wig has to do is post his screen shot.

Luna wrote: Current Stats as of 10 minutes ago:

Kill-Death Ratio
Davy: 2.763
Wig: 2.608

Hangar-Death Ratio (BIASED BECAUSE IT'S A PARTIAL QUOTIENT TO A WHOLE DIVISOR)
Davy: 0.090
Wig: 0.202

Win-Death Ratio (BIASED BECAUSE SEE ABOVE)
Davy: 2.55 deaths per win (NOT per game)
Wig: 2.03 deaths per win (NOT per game)

Kill-Crash Ratio
Davy: 19.498
Wig: 11.786

The verdict: You both are waaay better than me and I'll go sit in the corner now.

Today I went 0-7, bombed a hangar 8 times, and won.

Wouldn't Win-KILL ratio be more accurate?

As it is: RATIOS ARE IRRELEVANT. NUMBERS are what matter. Quantity over quality, so to speak.

The point system was a little different in the beginning also, you had to land safely to accumulate points. If you were shot down, you got nothing. That may account for the discrepancy. Just sayin'

Just a thought from a realatively new player, I have played with and against both of, my 2 cents.... Davy, you have never dropped and camped on me, wig a lot better turn fighter. However if I weigh it all and have to pick a single top player im gonna go with the deadman. AHAHAHA hehehe hoohooohooo! I crack myself up
But seriously, would have to go with.......davy

Mac wrote:

Luna wrote: Current Stats as of 10 minutes ago:

Kill-Death Ratio
Davy: 2.763
Wig: 2.608

Hangar-Death Ratio (BIASED BECAUSE IT'S A PARTIAL QUOTIENT TO A WHOLE DIVISOR)
Davy: 0.090
Wig: 0.202

Win-Death Ratio (BIASED BECAUSE SEE ABOVE)
Davy: 2.55 deaths per win (NOT per game)
Wig: 2.03 deaths per win (NOT per game)

Kill-Crash Ratio
Davy: 19.498
Wig: 11.786

The verdict: You both are waaay better than me and I'll go sit in the corner now.

Today I went 0-7, bombed a hangar 8 times, and won.

Wouldn't Win-KILL ratio be more accurate?

As it is: RATIOS ARE IRRELEVANT. NUMBERS are what matter. Quantity over quality, so to speak.

Sure! You can go ahead I guess, I don't want to look at rankings anymore. I was recently bumped out of the top 1000 and now I'm bummed.

All about points. Nothing else here matters.

Last post, because this really shouldn't be a fight:

1) This is not a debate of who is better. It's a debate of who has more. And wig appears to. Of everything.

2) This is the same rankings system that claims BStrachan has EXACTLY as many points as Bomer1, and for over a month now, although Brian has clearly gained points, and Bomer has not.

3) Wig doesn't take screenshots. He does forum on PC, and game on tablet.

As I sit on the sidelines and giggle as everyone pisses up a rope, I would like to remind everyone that BRIAN STRAYBEERCAN hit the top months ago, broke the scoreboard and started over...look at him now! No one is even close!

The funniest number crunching has been as follows :

"[*M]obama" has six letters. "Is joke" also has six letters. "Misfit" has six letters.
There is an asterisk. An asterisk looks kinda like a star. "Is" has two letters. If you take away two points from a five-pointed star, you have three sides. A triangle has three sides.
Take that two, and multiply it by the number of "I"s in the name and in the squad name. That's three times two. Another six. 6 I's is six eyes.
We have 3 sixes (666), a triangle, an eye, and three "I"s.
Gentlemen, Davy Crockett's ascension to #1 is an illuminati plot."
MACIMATICIAN

It works on so many levels....

Mac wrote: Last post, because this really shouldn't be a fight:

1) This is not a debate of who is better. It's a debate of who has more. And wig appears to. Of everything.

2) This is the same rankings system that claims BStrachan has EXACTLY as many points as Bomer1, and for over a month now, although Brian has clearly gained points, and Bomer has not.

3) Wig doesn't take screenshots. He does forum on PC, and game on tablet.

Yeah.

Or because he has zero intestinal fortitude.

You all are absolutely lovely to each other, you know that?

Another point is this, once you make moraf your points is even, IN OTHER WORDS SINCE WE BOTH MADE MORAF IVE ACCULATED MORE POINTS THEN HIM AND MORE WINS THAN HIM AND MORE KILLS THAN HIM.

this stuff is sooooooo funny, you just can't make it up

Oh I saw my name and am humbled. Early on, I looked up to blue max, von, ghost (and still do). I strive to shoot like all of them. Then Davy came into the picture and hence I had a lot of wounds to lick...needless to say, he was quickly added to the list. I appreciate that I was mentioned and recognize I still have far to go. Like von, I target those of high tank(not because I don't like them, but because I want to develop skill). Numbers don't lie..my in game rank differs from the forum tank...but when two numbers match...Well I have to go with that. Congrats champ.

Oh and resorting to name calling is just immature and very democrat. (Sorry, I spend alot of time in politics and that is normally a last resort used to demonize an opponent) I have met Davy and I declare he is a very nice and humble friend.

Instead of exepting THE loss of 1st position,congratulating the person that REPLACED him,in typical ARROGANT STYLE,ALL THE CRY BABIES SHOW THEIR TRUE COLOURS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My two cents time!!!

Who the F$&@ cares?

And if buy some chance you do care there is more to life then worrying about who's number one in a video game.

Edit. By posting does that mean I care? Now I'm confused thanks a lot guy.

This has been in my photobucket files for a couple of years. Titled: Major Glitches.
Am I psychic? Or psycho?

(not taking sides on who's #2 behind Brian)

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote:

This has been in my photobucket files for a couple of years. Titled: Major Glitches.
Am I psychic? Or psycho?

(not taking sides on who's #2 behind Brian)

DAVY SAYS, I VOTE PSYCHO LOL

Mac wrote: Last post, because this really shouldn't be a fight:

1) This is not a debate of who is better. It's a debate of who has more. And wig appears to. Of everything.

2) This is the same rankings system that claims BStrachan has EXACTLY as many points as Bomer1, and for over a month now, although Brian has clearly gained points, and Bomer has not.

3) Wig doesn't take screenshots. He does forum on PC, and game on tablet.

*[M]VonHulk wrote: Well the numbers don't lie, all wig has to do is post his screen shot.

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Mac wrote: Last post, because this really shouldn't be a fight:

1) This is not a debate of who is better. It's a debate of who has more. And wig appears to. Of everything.

2) This is the same rankings system that claims BStrachan has EXACTLY as many points as Bomer1, and for over a month now, although Brian has clearly gained points, and Bomer has not.

3) Wig doesn't take screenshots. He does forum on PC, and game on tablet.

Hey Wig...your dutch rudderist is making you out to be a fool. Guess he doesn't think you competent enough to post pictures to the Forum

Here you go Davy, until proven otherwise...



I was sent a PM, from a player that was taught by wig how to take and post screen shots, they play on the "same" tablet. SO...

FOR WHOEVER WINS THIS PISSING CONTEST! CONGRATULATIONS!

Now everyone lighten up!