Im gonna be honest, many Pilots dont say all the deadly Pilots only for ego ploblems, they only say the friends deadly Pilots

for me, i must say there are 3 pilots that i fear :

Zebraup
McFate
Whip

I get lit up by to many people to actually compile a list. Would make for good reading though if not a looooong read.....

As I read through these lists, I also think about the pilots I'd rather see as blue. For me, out depends whether I'm allied or German. In the long run, I guess I don't necessarily cringe, but do know I better hunker down for a challenging game. There are many excellent skilled pilots and as I write this, the ones who come to mind are: hulk, grey ghost, hansone, Davy, jimboslice, wig, Frank, diesel, dentinhead, gotchya, wormjim, blob, zebraup, taffy, blue max, arkangle, guardian, whip and thulsa, jizzy jazhonky, trippletaps...there are many many more...but just can't think of the names until after my first cup of coffee.

My list is way too long guys...... anyone within the top 500 ranking got my fingers sweating and my nerves going haywire.

mine would be... Weazel!, all of Lafayette! Mr. becken, . Wig, Eagle21, Crockett, B52, Whip, Thulsa, gotchya, VonHulk, Dest, *420*, Reckless, Blue max, HB.. there are a lot others but maybe I forgot some names haha

Gunnerzz, Hb, Monster cannon, Whip, Manic, Wig, Vonhulk, B52, zebra, Bzerk, Tbuilt, Kamikaze King, Siedz Solo, and I'm sure I'm missing many more...Mean, Trey, this game hold some talent in the air!!

Here my list (Not in the written order, all of them are deadly)-
Ziza, VonHulk, tKestrel, Wig, Monster Cannon, Davy, McFate, 420, TripleTaps, ArkAngle, Cricket, Guardian, JizzyJ, Zebra, DentinHead and many more. I'll add them later.

I have no list, wait I do. Any red pilot who can shoot worth a damn and those pilots who use more than straight shooting as a tactic. All those who fight and never give up, give a great fight and hand me my as7 or tail rudder.

I have no great nemesis, which means all of you can hold that title depending on the server gods and what they give or take from us any given day. Regardless so many hold, earn and have skill, I fear not, just try to give, learn and adjust to what is given to me.

if you go back in time a few months you will find mini good players for whatever reason ether no longer play our play very little but they were all very tough adversaries to overcome like Blue Max was one of the best but now he's a pushover haha

Water, hills, and carrier when it's turning. Heck the other day duckwing monument got me oh I forgot parachutes! The deadliest of them all.

Im with Jason...that little bump on the top of the east hill just north of south base. That one that you just get over to see south base when coming from the north. I've hit that so many times there should be a dent. Oh and Snow definitely snow.

Yes that stupid hill pops up when you least expect it.

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Big*Joe wrote:

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Most of the people named here are at the top of the list against top players. I didn't include anyone on my list because i am friends with them. The people listed can go against the top players, be outnumbered, and still wil the game. I've been playing about a year and 3 months. Trust me I started out like everyone else, not knowing anything. I learned just like everyone else. Fought my way to the top.

*[M]VonHulk wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Most of the people named here are at the top of the list against top players. I didn't include anyone on my list because i am friends with them. The people listed can go against the top players, be outnumbered, and still wil the game. I've been playing about a year and 3 months. Trust me I started out like everyone else, not knowing anything. I learned just like everyone else. Fought my way to the top.

well you sir are #1 on my list, by a long shot (pun intended) lol. And I wouldn't expect to be on a list yet, but what does grind my gears is when I see pilots named that shoot me down 1/10 times we meet. There are a cpl ppl on pg2 here....cough....cough gunnerzz, that named several pilots like this, but left me off, personal grudge?. But that's ok, I have my list too now

Big*Joe wrote:

*[M]VonHulk wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Most of the people named here are at the top of the list against top players. I didn't include anyone on my list because i am friends with them. The people listed can go against the top players, be outnumbered, and still wil the game. I've been playing about a year and 3 months. Trust me I started out like everyone else, not knowing anything. I learned just like everyone else. Fought my way to the top.

well you sir are #1 on my list, by a long shot (pun intended) lol. And I wouldn't expect to be on a list yet, but what does grind my gears is when I see pilots named that shoot me down 1/10 times we meet. There are a cpl ppl on pg2 here....cough....cough gunnerzz, that named several pilots like this, but left me off, personal grudge?. But that's ok, I have my list too now

Just when I think I've seen it all I can always assure that I haven't. ..lol.Grudge Joe what are you talking about?? I'm in florida spending time with my father who has a few days left so I pop in throw up a short post and left out several players and now I have a grudge??? Are you guys really serious?? You and Eagle21 are both good pilots but I'm not on here mad over all the people who didn't mention me am I?? I had 85 kills against wig tbuilt and a few others just the other day anyone metion me no and who cares I don't....but what grinds my gears Joe is going through all I'm going through right now you posting some bs thinking I have a grudge against you cause I didn't mention you...thats the most self centered bs I've heard in a long time and all I can say Joe is WOW...Here let me make you feel better I want to add BigJoe and eagle21 to my list!!! There do you feel better now joe??

G.I Gunnerzz wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

*[M]VonHulk wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Most of the people named here are at the top of the list against top players. I didn't include anyone on my list because i am friends with them. The people listed can go against the top players, be outnumbered, and still wil the game. I've been playing about a year and 3 months. Trust me I started out like everyone else, not knowing anything. I learned just like everyone else. Fought my way to the top.

well you sir are #1 on my list, by a long shot (pun intended) lol. And I wouldn't expect to be on a list yet, but what does grind my gears is when I see pilots named that shoot me down 1/10 times we meet. There are a cpl ppl on pg2 here....cough....cough gunnerzz, that named several pilots like this, but left me off, personal grudge?. But that's ok, I have my list too now

Just when I think I've seen it all I can always assure that I haven't. ..lol.Grudge Joe what are you talking about?? I'm in florida spending time with my father who has a few days left so I pop in throw up a short post and left out several players and now I have a grudge??? Are you guys really serious?? You and Eagle21 are both good pilots but I'm not on here mad over all the people who didn't mention me am I?? I had 85 kills against wig tbuilt and a few others just the other day anyone metion me no and who cares I don't....but what grinds my gears Joe is going through all I'm going through right now you posting some bs thinking I have a grudge against you cause I didn't mention you...thats the most self centered bs I've heard in a long time and all I can say Joe is WOW...Here let me make you feel better I want to add BigJoe and eagle21 to my list!!! There do you feel better now joe??

Let me interject... Hurt feelings was never intended on any level... We all play against and with certain people in a consistent basis and those usually stick out more than any other. Second...gunnerz... Sorry to hear about your dad.... Spend as much time as you can with him... You and your family will be in my prayers.

[*M]ONSTER CANNON wrote:

G.I Gunnerzz wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

*[M]VonHulk wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Most of the people named here are at the top of the list against top players. I didn't include anyone on my list because i am friends with them. The people listed can go against the top players, be outnumbered, and still wil the game. I've been playing about a year and 3 months. Trust me I started out like everyone else, not knowing anything. I learned just like everyone else. Fought my way to the top.

well you sir are #1 on my list, by a long shot (pun intended) lol. And I wouldn't expect to be on a list yet, but what does grind my gears is when I see pilots named that shoot me down 1/10 times we meet. There are a cpl ppl on pg2 here....cough....cough gunnerzz, that named several pilots like this, but left me off, personal grudge?. But that's ok, I have my list too now

Just when I think I've seen it all I can always assure that I haven't. ..lol.Grudge Joe what are you talking about?? I'm in florida spending time with my father who has a few days left so I pop in throw up a short post and left out several players and now I have a grudge??? Are you guys really serious?? You and Eagle21 are both good pilots but I'm not on here mad over all the people who didn't mention me am I?? I had 85 kills against wig tbuilt and a few others just the other day anyone metion me no and who cares I don't....but what grinds my gears Joe is going through all I'm going through right now you posting some bs thinking I have a grudge against you cause I didn't mention you...thats the most self centered bs I've heard in a long time and all I can say Joe is WOW...Here let me make you feel better I want to add BigJoe and eagle21 to my list!!! There do you feel better now joe??

Let me interject... Hurt feelings was never intended on any level... We all play against and with certain people in a consistent basis and those usually stick out more than any other. Second...gunnerz... Sorry to hear about your dad.... Spend as much time as you can with him... You and your family will be in my prayers.

woohoo I made it!!!!!!!! lol
On a side note, sorry to hear that gunz bro, I wish u and ur family the very best in whats to come
yours trully: Eagle21

Hmm the people that make me sweat and dizzy are anybody that's good at turn fighting as I'm a disaster at that:)

WarEagle wrote:

[*M]ONSTER CANNON wrote:

G.I Gunnerzz wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

*[M]VonHulk wrote:

Big*Joe wrote:

WarEagle wrote: I feel ur pain brotha 'your enemy' I guess it takes more than being at the top of the list every match and being one of the few who can actually cover ur teams back as they fly cluelessly into the lead filled skies to make it :/

use this like an NFL player picked in the 6th round (Tom Brady)over all those fancy guys with big names. and everytime your up against one of those that overlooked you, or were mentioned instead of you, make em pay!

p.s. None of the big names have egos that will allow them to name a mid-level player, so our time will come!

Most of the people named here are at the top of the list against top players. I didn't include anyone on my list because i am friends with them. The people listed can go against the top players, be outnumbered, and still wil the game. I've been playing about a year and 3 months. Trust me I started out like everyone else, not knowing anything. I learned just like everyone else. Fought my way to the top.

well you sir are #1 on my list, by a long shot (pun intended) lol. And I wouldn't expect to be on a list yet, but what does grind my gears is when I see pilots named that shoot me down 1/10 times we meet. There are a cpl ppl on pg2 here....cough....cough gunnerzz, that named several pilots like this, but left me off, personal grudge?. But that's ok, I have my list too now

Just when I think I've seen it all I can always assure that I haven't. ..lol.Grudge Joe what are you talking about?? I'm in florida spending time with my father who has a few days left so I pop in throw up a short post and left out several players and now I have a grudge??? Are you guys really serious?? You and Eagle21 are both good pilots but I'm not on here mad over all the people who didn't mention me am I?? I had 85 kills against wig tbuilt and a few others just the other day anyone metion me no and who cares I don't....but what grinds my gears Joe is going through all I'm going through right now you posting some bs thinking I have a grudge against you cause I didn't mention you...thats the most self centered bs I've heard in a long time and all I can say Joe is WOW...Here let me make you feel better I want to add BigJoe and eagle21 to my list!!! There do you feel better now joe??

Let me interject... Hurt feelings was never intended on any level... We all play against and with certain people in a consistent basis and those usually stick out more than any other. Second...gunnerz... Sorry to hear about your dad.... Spend as much time as you can with him... You and your family will be in my prayers.

woohoo I made it!!!!!!!! lol
On a side note, sorry to hear that gunz bro, I wish u and ur family the very best in whats to come
yours trully: Eagle21

Thank you eagle21 and monster cannon I appricate the kind words !!

G.I Gunnerzz wrote: thats the most self centered bs I've heard in a long time and all I can say Joe is WOW...Here let me make you feel better I want to add BigJoe and eagle21 to my list!!! There do you feel better now joe??

WOW Gunnz! looks like my assumptions were right. i was simply voicing my opinion that i see pilots on some lists that dont take me down too often, and am i wrong to assume you may have a grudge when you havent spoken a word to me since i left GI, and now you come on here and you (who voted me as co-leader of GI) mentions those i can take down easily and leaves me out? I dont think that was much of a stretch... now because i say to look at it like a late round draft pick that was passed over and encourage others to use it as motivation, i am self centered? OK Gunnz! I simply stated i will use being overlooked as motivation, you as always, must take it to another level and attack people and call names! And no sir your sarcastic addition of my name to your list does not make me feel better, but your personal attack does make me feel better (about my decision to leave GI) ty sir.

I'm praying for your family, Gunnerzz my man. Losing someone you love is an awful experience.

As pertains to the presence (or lack thereof) of several players on this list, the answer is simple.

We each named pilots that we have played against and been terrorized by. There are MORAFs whose figurative number I have, and some who I seem completely unable to touch. For example, I was 6-4 vs Cricket today, and have killed Davy maybe a combined 6 times in the entirety of my Dogfight-playing days.

The other aspect, is how long a pilot has been playing. For example, Joe neglected to name plausibly Dogfight's greatest player ever (according to VonHulk, just ask him), Blue Max. It isn't that Joe doesn't think Blue Max is great, he's simply never fought him. The same policy with ZebraUp and Calle.

So Joe, Gunnerzz, Eagle, if you feel underestimated, it is simply that perhaps you have not made that mark yet. Joe, you're level 25, correct? I have no trouble believing that you are just as good as multiple pilots listed here, but the advantage these pilots have is time. Does this make sense?

Just trying to possibly explain,
Mac

Mac wrote:
As pertains to the presence (or lack thereof) of several players on this list, the answer is simple.

We each named pilots that we have played against and been terrorized by. There are MORAFs whose figurative number I have, and some who I seem completely unable to touch. For example, I was 6-4 vs Cricket today, and have killed Davy maybe a combined 6 times in the entirety of my Dogfight-playing days.

The other aspect, is how long a pilot has been playing. For example, Joe neglected to name plausibly Dogfight's greatest player ever (according to VonHulk, just ask him), Blue Max. It isn't that Joe doesn't think Blue Max is great, he's simply never fought him. The same policy with ZebraUp and Calle.

So Joe, Gunnerzz, Eagle, if you feel underestimated, it is simply that perhaps you have not made that mark yet. Joe, you're level 25, correct? I have no trouble believing that you are just as good as multiple pilots listed here, but the advantage these pilots have is time. Does this make sense?

Just trying to possibly explain,
Mac

Make perfect sense Mac! and ty for the kind words. As for BlueMax he is one I know of but by reputation, but have yet to encounter much of. That being said, this is why i was not bothered by not being on any list here except for gunnerz, he knows me well and has flown with me many times (more than some on his list) and i considered him a friend (until today). I havent had enough time here to make it on any list of any of the greats here yet, but my own ex-squad leader leaving me off but including some I take down regularly and that he hasn't even known as long is different, i take that as a personal slight. If i am wrong, sorry for having an opinion :/ but all i did was say to use such omissions as motivation to keep at it like the greats have, so if that is reason enough for gunnerz tirade then so be it. That is all i will say on this, Gunnerz if you wish to address me further about this please PM me instead of continuing on Cannon's thread.



One i forgot to add to my list is GreyGhost

Big*Joe wrote:

G.I Gunnerzz wrote: thats the most self centered bs I've heard in a long time and all I can say Joe is WOW...Here let me make you feel better I want to add BigJoe and eagle21 to my list!!! There do you feel better now joe??

WOW Gunnz! looks like my assumptions were right. i was simply voicing my opinion that i see pilots on some lists that dont take me down too often, and am i wrong to assume you may have a grudge when you havent spoken a word to me since i left GI, and now you come on here and you (who voted me as co-leader of GI) mentions those i can take down easily and leaves me out? I dont think that was much of a stretch... now because i say to look at it like a late round draft pick that was passed over and encourage others to use it as motivation, i am self centered? OK Gunnz! I simply stated i will use being overlooked as motivation, you as always, must take it to another level and attack people and call names! And no sir your sarcastic addition of my name to your list does not make me feel better, but your personal attack does make me feel better (about my decision to leave GI) ty sir.

Joe I've got enough on my plate without you being mad or upset over me not mentioning your name and by no means did I personally attack you but whatever its your story so tell it how you wish..I simply forgot to mention your name lol...only one of us making this personal seems to be you.I mean this started over your name not being mentioned how childish is that? I'll tell you its a pure joke!! And you say we was friends till today?? I haven't done ONE thing to you and all im dealing with besides this "and for you to start some crap like this" I don't need or want or desire a friend like you so that works out perfectly for both of us.!! On a different note MAC thank you very much for the kind words!!!! They are true and very appreciated! !

Gunnerzz,

Sorry to hear about your dad. I went through the same thing with mine several years ago, and though it was hard to sit with him at the end as the lymphoma took him, I'm glad I had the time with him to talk about a lot of things. Looking back on it, it was some of the best conversation we ever had. You and your family will be in our prayers.

Ouchie guys...lol well maybe I'll make it on the next go around... Hehehe..

As far as my list... Just because I don't name u doesn't mean ur not. It's early and I'm sure I fly at different times that some.
Hulk
Uncle Davey
TR
Cannon
Rabbit
Wig
Zebra
Killer[LF]
Z Freak
Strachan
1001
B52
Yemx
Giz
Rodama
Triple Taps
Ishan Sang
Eagle21
Jimmy the Great
Tbuilt
Bzerk
Fousty
CcRyder
Whip

I know I forgot some so let me apologize.
Monster u should 've created a checklist so we could scroll and check.lol
Thus list is in no particular order just off top of my head....

Top pilots for me (keep in mind I haven't flown in 2 months) Plus I look at the pilots personality and how they fly.. I don't go by who has the best ranking/stats because that can be reached over a long period of time and that doesn't necessarily mean there a "great" pilot. Sorry if I didn't use your current in game name and these arnt in any kind of order.
1.)B 52!
2.)Whiplash
3.)VonHuLK
4.)Triple Taps
5.)Mac
6.)Weazel
7.)YEMX
8.)MONSTER CANNON
9.)ZebraUp
10.)[LF]Killer
11.)Z freak
12.)Bla Blue
13.)Thulsa Doom
14.)Elim
15.)Ace*L!nk
16.)Gunnerzz
17.)Horrible Breast
18.)Raunak
19.)^^!Mr.Lee!^^
20.)Lowdan Clear
21.)Jazhonky
22.)Misfit Crocket
23.)Barf Simpson
24.)Mean Fokker
25.)Treybien
26.)RT


I missed quit a few but these are who came to mind.

BULLET [M]isfit wrote: Ouchie guys...lol well maybe I'll make it on the next go around... Hehehe..

As far as my list... Just because I don't name u doesn't mean ur not. It's early and I'm sure I fly at different times that some.
Hulk
Uncle Davey
TR
Cannon
Rabbit
Wig
Zebra
Killer[LF]
Z Freak
Strachan
1001
B52
Yemx
Giz
Rodama
Triple Taps
Ishan Sang
Eagle21
Jimmy the Great
Tbuilt
Bzerk
Fousty
CcRyder
Whip

I know I forgot some so let me apologize.
Monster u should 've created a checklist so we could scroll and check.lol
Thus list is in no particular order just off top of my head....

I know what you mean...for me, the list is greater as there are SEVERAL Misfits I didn't mention and would offer a great challenge. Included in that are frequent flyers from other squads.

Mr.[LF]Becken wrote: Top pilots for me (keep in mind I haven't flown in 2 months) Plus I look at the pilots personality and how they fly.. I don't go by who has the best ranking/stats because that can be reached over a long period of time and that doesn't necessarily mean there a "great" pilot. Sorry if I didn't use your current in game name and these arnt in any kind of order.
1.)B 52!
2.)Whiplash
3.)VonHuLK
4.)Triple Taps
5.)Mac
6.)Weazel
7.)YEMX
8.)MONSTER CANNON
9.)ZebraUp
10.)[LF]Killer
11.)Z freak
12.)Bla Blue
13.)Thulsa Doom
14.)Elim
15.)Ace*L!nk
16.)Gunnerzz
17.)Horrible Breast
18.)Raunak
19.)^^!Mr.Lee!^^
20.)Lowdan Clear
21.)Jazhonky
22.)Misfit Crocket
23.)Barf Simpson
24.)Mean Fokker
25.)Treybien
26.)RT


I missed quit a few but these are who came to mind.

You're a great guy, Becken, but I do NOT deserve to be on this list. I'm short of 8,000 kills, a 1.5:1 kdr, and the ability to out-turn a Brigadier-general. Thank you for the thought though.