DONE AND OVER WITH.

[DD]*joker* wrote: Hey guys I want to make this clear..this is not a droppers thread and not a place to complain about droppers. I made this thread specifically so that we can post the pilots that's use these diverse "tactics". NOT COMPLAIN about them....simply post thier name and reason for posting.this way when u enter a game and see a pilot from this list you kno what to expect and decide if its worth your effort to play against these tactics. ..please please please understand this is not a slam page, use of tactics can be either good or bad its just givin everyone a heads up so to say.

111th saxe-bombless tactics
Ziza - bombless tactics / "stealth" tactics (accused high flyer)
Von fritz- "stealth" tactics (high flyer)
Zebraup-brings lawnchairs and marshmellows to base (does a lil campin)


I can't remember all off the top of my head so ill add as we go.

Actually Joker I bring my hammock & marshmellows.. not a lawnchair.. I can't take a nap in one of those..

Lol thats right i forgot

Sergent Furax-Barrel roll (tactics)
Does a lot of camping!!
But i hav not seen him frm many days

Most of these tactical pilots drop their bombs as soon as they take off. Nothing glorious about that. How can this be stopped?

done

Pluribus. The annoying red dot near your base tactic that no matter how long he's been there dead, you still have to go out of your way.to check and be sure.

And I have to say I tried it some in a game the other day and it works as a great distraction.

Sounds to me like a complain thread.

Maybe we need to have a "non tactics" thread to point out all the pilots who dont use tactics?

Barrell roll tactics now is looked at in a negative light? Wow

This thread seems pejorative to me.

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Well you are kinda being pejorative in the use of tactics. I think this thread doesnt really help matters. Why does there even need to be a thread for this? Why "single out" a list of pilots who use these or any other tactics?

Being kinda "passive aggressive". "Oh im not saying its negative or positive" when deep down we know the "alterior motive" purpose of the thread

Every TACTIC, comes with disadvantages, the trick is to learn a counter attack. I have learned over time to find a counter to just about all of them. There is nothing better than coming into a game, and chasing off the tactical flier. With or without a bomb. I don't care. I'm going to shoot you. The only thing that is hard to counter is spawnkilling. Camping is just another weak way to gather points. That's why I don't do it. I don't care if someone does, I just won't. It's not my style, if I come over the last hill, I put a bead on the planes taking off, and I wait. Once I see you take off and turn, Game on. I would not try to force my Ethics on another. It's just my way of playing. It suits me. I've been called a spawnkiller by a couple of Noobs. I just tell them, If you would like, next time I make it over to your base, I'll show you spawnkilling. But I never do.

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I'm offended. No one thought to include me? Maybe because the whole bomb-dropping thing is a comparatively recent addition to my tactics arsenal, made necessary by the introduction of Windows and its chronic sync issues. Get lit up enough by those unnatural hits at range or a shot that could only be coming directly out of the passing pilot's ear, phenomena that cut across all Windows users, the noobs as well as the more seasoned players, and certain adjustments are required to succeed. Pre-Windows I never, ever dropped, not even to engage with someone I knew to have just shed his bomb. Those days are long gone. I can't say I miss being a gerbil in the same wheel to nowhere with seven other gerbils, all lumbering interminably across the map just to ruin an aspiring historically accurate WWI flight combat sim by playing chicken with pixels as if this were 1993 and Dogfight were no more sophisticated than Nintendo LazerBlazer.

It's called Dogfight for a reason.

I'm having T-Shirts made for every non-Windows user who arrives at the same point:

I drop, therefore I drop you

When placing your order please specify red or blue and L, XL or XXL.

--w--

Wigbomb wrote: I'm offended. No one thought to include me? Maybe because the whole bomb-dropping thing is a comparatively recent addition to my tactics arsenal, made necessary by the introduction of Windows and its chronic sync issues. Get lit up enough by those unnatural hits at range or a shot that could only be coming directly out of the passing pilots ear, phenomena that cut across all Windows users, the noobs as well as the more seasoned players, and certain adjustments are required to succeed. Pre-Windows I never, ever dropped, not even to engage with someone I knew to have just shed his bomb. Those days are long gone. I can't say I miss being a gerbil in the same wheel to nowhere with seven other gerbils, all lumbering interminably across the map just to ruin an aspiring historically accurate WWI flight combat sim by playing chicken with pixels as if this were 1993 and Dogfight were no more sophisticated than Nintendo LazerBlazer.

It's called Dogfight for a reason.

I'm having T-Shirts made for every non-Windows user who arrives at the same point:

I drop, therefore I drop you

When placing your order please specify red or blue and L, XL or XXL.

--w--

If it's free it's for me. Blue in medium if you got some.

VonHulK[M*] wrote: Every TACTIC, comes with disadvantages, the trick is to learn a counter attack. I have learned over time to find a counter to just about all of them. There is nothing better than coming into a game, and chasing off the tactical flier. With or without a bomb. I don't care. I'm going to shoot you. The only thing that is hard to counter is spawnkilling. Camping is just another weak way to gather points. That's why I don't do it. I don't care if someone does, I just won't. It's not my style, if I come over the last hill, I put a bead on the planes taking off, and I wait. Once I see you take off and turn, Game on. I would not try to force my Ethics on another. It's just my way of playing. It suits me. I've been called a spawnkiller by a couple of Noobs. I just tell them, If you would like, next time I makex it over to your base, I'll show you spawnkilling. But I never do.

Thank you Sir Hulk! The game is DOGFIGHT fer cryin out loud! All it is about is tactically trying to outwit your opponent. Yes, droppers and campers suck, but in a public arena there isnt a whole lot you can do except deal the best you can. But as for basic DF tactics, get over it and maybe try to learn from them to improve your own skills.

Above all else, remember.....it is a game......if it bothers you that much, try Candy Crush.................

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My tactic is a secret...but I'll share. I shoot reds.

{£}ZebraUp wrote:

[DD]*joker* wrote: Hey guys I want to make this clear..this is not a droppers thread and not a place to complain about droppers. I made this thread specifically so that we can post the pilots that's use these diverse "tactics". NOT COMPLAIN about them....simply post thier name and reason for posting.this way when u enter a game and see a pilot from this list you kno what to expect and decide if its worth your effort to play against these tactics. ..please please please understand this is not a slam page, use of tactics can be either good or bad its just givin everyone a heads up so to say.

111th saxe-bombless tactics
Ziza - bombless tactics / "stealth" tactics (accused high flyer)
Von fritz- "stealth" tactics (high flyer)
Zebraup-brings lawnchairs and marshmellows to base (does a lil campin)


I can't remember all off the top of my head so ill add as we go.

Actually Joker I bring my hammock & marshmellows.. not a lawnchair.. I can't take a nap in one of those..

If you see this at your base.....
You know u are in trouble!

LMAO!!! I GOTTA Get Me One of Those!!

& yes, I camp.. but I do it AFTER I bomb your hangar/carrier.. but I don't camp in lopsided games i.e. 6 vs 2 or any# vs 1... & I carry my bomb unless reds aren't.. my new mantra is 'if you drop? I drop..'
I am a big fan of 'camping' [which DOESN'T include spawnkilling!] and I applaud ALL TACTICS in this great game.. as long as they are NOT something that gets you banned I am a fan! (except for spawnkilling, but even that has it's place in some missions)

FOX#1 wrote: Ya. U know know u are in trouble when you see this at your base.

{£}ZebraUp wrote:

[DD]*joker* wrote: Hey guys I want to make this clear..this is not a droppers thread and not a place to complain about droppers. I made this thread specifically so that we can post the pilots that's use these diverse "tactics". NOT COMPLAIN about them....simply post thier name and reason for posting.this way when u enter a game and see a pilot from this list you kno what to expect and decide if its worth your effort to play against these tactics. ..please please please understand this is not a slam page, use of tactics can be either good or bad its just givin everyone a heads up so to say.

111th saxe-bombless tactics
Ziza - bombless tactics / "stealth" tactics (accused high flyer)
Von fritz- "stealth" tactics (high flyer)
Zebraup-brings lawnchairs and marshmellows to base (does a lil campin)


I can't remember all off the top of my head so ill add as we go.

Actually Joker I bring my hammock & marshmellows.. not a lawnchair.. I can't take a nap in one of those..

|111th|tSwopCaml wrote: Sounds to me like a complain thread.

Maybe we need to have a "non tactics" thread to point out all the pilots who dont use tactics?

Swop there are who's the biggest head to head threads why not this. The point is you will need to use counter strategies to these pilots so be aware. Knowledge is power and there is no negative spin on the thread by Joker but by the others contributing. I am asking a mod to move this into the Dragons section so I can remove the negative comments as this is explicitly said that it's not the threads intent. Please pm me and we will discuss and don't use this thread if you don't agree with me.

|111th|tSwopCaml wrote: Barrell roll tactics now is looked at in a negative light? Wow

This thread seems pejorative to me.

Read Joker's point not what others post please and again let's let the threads purpose and usefulness be allowed to prove itself before adding criticizing statements.

|111th|tSwopCaml wrote: Well you are kinda being pejorative in the use of tactics. I think this thread doesnt really help matters. Why does there even need to be a thread for this? Why "single out" a list of pilots who use these or any other tactics?

Being kinda "passive aggressive". "Oh im not saying its negative or positive" when deep down we know the "alterior motive" purpose of the thread

Us head to head fighters are changing in light of so many using tactics...C'mon Swop you have heard of the psychological reaction to change haven't you? It's happening to all of us and this is a helpful counter measure. In an even game this is all fair and people should stop complaining and work on counter measures. The only time it's negative is when the teams are unbalanced and the large team uses a few tactics it can be impossible to defend.

I think this is a great thread/topic Whip & Joker!

Counter-strategies for me are simple.. shoot me down! Either before I get to your base/carrier or while I am dancing thru the skies overhead in joyful celebration of finally getting a bomb to the target! lol!

[DD]*joker* wrote: I guess all I can say is take from it what u want I started this thread for information purposes for newer pilots so they know what they are up against this topic is not up for personal debate as is not the black list thread. if you have nothing revelant to say about this specific topic than please post else where, as I said before this topic isn't up for personal debate I started it for my own purposes for the benefit of others and will only be governed by myself or the mods, not by personal opinion of pilots not understand or protesting my thread.

Perfectly stated!

In "dogfight" game mode I have found outwitting Zebra Quite easy. Simply autodestroy until you spawn at a base he's nowhere near, the try to hit him from long range. Repeat until you are lucky enough to hit him twice.

And yes, I read the whole thread. Two weeks ago, I would've joined the argument, but I've decided to take the high road and just use this thread for its intended purpose.

Is barrel rolling now frowned upon as well? I always thought it was a legitimate tactic. Some pilots got upset when I dodged their bullets instead of shooting head-on. It was a 3 vs 1; it was unlikely I was going to win that fight.

Call me a coward, but when I know I'm not going to win a head-on fight, I spin like crazy and try to catch you from behind. Take it as a compliment; your head-on prowess is too much for me to handle!

I agree Luna, but look what joker actually said; this is a catalogue, not a hit list.