Yay! He speaks! Finally, clarity abounds. A well spoken argument Max, far more productive than stooping to Swobfuscation and dribbly incoherence.
Whether I agree 100% (I don't), or totally disagree (I don't), or somewhere in between (see below), ya'll must recognize the observations made in the Max Manifesto as legitimate observations. Albeit from a somewhat impatient perspective that is Max. But impatience is the only real flaw that I see here.
Oh man you made me read the whole English 101 thread again. A highly enjoyable thread for the original purposes. But the Doughens posts were (typically) painful. While I don't agree with many of the sinister assignments you interpret from Swobfuscating Posts, I am reminded of some old high school classmates:
- "Hey guys hey guys hey guys wait for meeeeeeeee!"
- "Whatch'all talkin' about here? Mind if I impose myself on the conversation? Let's talk about something else. Or at least, I'll interject myself at awkward moments and follow up on my own comments with more comments."
- "Teacher they're making fun! See? See?"
- "Maybe if I keep talking about nonsense, they won't ignore me as much."
I was no social smooth-talker in high school, but these four guys (each one represented above) stick in my memory so clearly. Yet they were educational, because they illustrated what not to be. I never made fun, but when I was tailed, I spun and gave escalating Go-Away's until they got the message. A couple never got the message, and when I was cornered by annoyance I would lash out.
doughens wrote: ...Manny im actually not annoying as u think. But i never bully. I tried in the past long ago to put "bullies in thier place" with humor. Im sorry if u thought that was annoying. I have since refrained which i hope you have seen over the last several months...
Buddy, "annoying" isn't a characteristic experienced by the person who is emanating the annoyance. It is an emotional response experienced by the person perceiving it. You can't tell others who think you are annoying that you aren't - it's like telling them what to think. You actually ARE that annoying, to me. Just read the English 101 thread. Who does that? Declares themselves part of the joke, their part of the joke falls flat and is largely ignored, but yet they continue on as if the whole room is laughing. Some people just let stuff like that pass. But it annoys ME, and you can't take that away just by saying it doesn't exist.
It's no sin to be annoying. But to ignore feedback and declare oneself a victim to it, that's purely a character flaw. You may wind up in a different heaven because you think you believe a little harder than the rest of us. I'll be in heaven too, but I hope that because I try to fix my character flaws, my heaven won't be as lonely as yours.
Max, maybe my initial judgment that you are too impatient was wrong. Or at least, I have the same flaw. I think I have some work to do on myself.
Manfred